No help in LO

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#1

Hi

I have installed LO 3.5.5 under Windows 7 together with the English UK help files in the order specified. However when I try to access help in LO instead of getting the built-in help I get directed to the website

http://help.libreoffice.org/swriter/.uno%3AHelpIndex?Language=en-US&System=WIN&Version=3.5#bm_id3149178

Is there some settings file that I need to change so as to get the program to recognise that the help files are there?

Any help gratefuly received.

Graham

#2

Hi :slight_smile:
Forget the help.  It's an extra package you were supposed to download when you downloaded the main part of LibreOffice.  you can download it now, it's only about 9Mb i think but it's better to use the much more up-to-date documentation instead. 
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications

The help is growign a bit ragged around the edges as it is getting out-dated quite fast.
Good luck and regards from
Tom :slight_smile:

#3

Tom wrote

Forget the help. 
...
The help is growing a bit ragged around the edges as it is getting
out-dated quite fast.

I disagree completely. Do get the offline help. It is a quite efficient and
handy quick reference for LibreOffice even if it is(?) outdated.

http://www.libreoffice.org/download/?type=win-x86&lang=en-GB&version=3.5.5

(notice the second button)

I agree with Tom the Publications are VERY good, but it's not exactly the
same as pressing F1

#4

Hi :slight_smile:
Lol, that is not complete disagreement! I agree it's handy to have both but if you are missing the built-in help then "view it as a feature not a bug".  Afaik the Help was last updated for the 3.3.0 and there have been quite a few changes since then. 
Regards from
Tom :slight_smile:

#5

I use the publications, when I need to find something out. It just annoys me that F1 doesn,t work. Anyway I have downloaded and run the helpfile a number of times, but pressing F1 still doesn't bring up help.

Graham

#6

Hi Graham,

Graham Luffrum schrieb:

Hi

I have installed LO 3.5.5 under Windows 7 together with the English UK
help files in the order specified. However when I try to access help in
LO instead of getting the built-in help I get directed to the website

http://help.libreoffice.org/swriter/.uno%3AHelpIndex?Language=en-US&System=WIN&Version=3.5#bm_id3149178

Is there some settings file that I need to change so as to get the
program to recognise that the help files are there?

Any help gratefuly received.

There are two reasons I can imagine:
1.
You have installed the help to a wrong place. Make sure the folder with your language exists in <installation folder>\help\. You can run installation again and then carefully read, whether it detects the right installation path automatically.
2.
You have downloaded a help file, which does not fit to the UI-language. For example, if your UI in LibreOffice is set to English-US, you need the help-files English-US, not another "English".

Kind regards
Regina

#7

Thanks, Regina. Your 2. was the reason. I had forgotten to change the UI-language to UK English.

Grusse,

Graham

#8

If you really want to see a mess, check out how many different "versions" of English LO supports in the language options. There are a lot of them, but only a few have actual defined options instead of the defaults.

#9

Hi :slight_smile:
Regina is often a total star in here.  I had missed your sentance about having already tried installing the helpfile.
Congrats, apols and regards
Tom :slight_smile:

#10

Tom, et al,
I might also add that I have read a few of the manuals, such as Writer, Calc, Base and Draw and, although it is very good compared to, say, the OO 2.4 era, it sometimes states to use Help for more information or details. So, Help is needed to be complete. I have used Help occasionally and you are right in that sometimes it is incomplete or downright incorrect, but it is better than trial and error.
Girvin Herr

Tom Davies wrote:

#11

As an after thought is there a way in which one could collabarate the
online documentation into a bundle?
I would be willing to lend a hand if there was no coding involved :stuck_out_tongue:

#12

Hi :slight_smile:
The Docs Team rarely gets involved in any coding!  You are welcome to join their team and help out there!  It's not easy to figure-out how to start being active but once you do it's reasonably easy to get stuck into work without having to worry about that sort of thing.

I'm not completely sure what you mean by "bundled".  The individual chapters are bundled into complete books but i think you mean something else.
Regards from
Tom :slight_smile:

#13

By bundle I kind of envisaged all of the webpages collated together in a
pdf or something like that, I will definitely join!.
I am also a graphic designer & music producer in my spare time going by
the Alias "Antisocky"
If you google my alias you will find some of my work.
any way I really wish there was a way in which I could truly contribute
as LO has been such an asset to me during this year at school!

#14

Hi :slight_smile:
I think the closest we have is the "Publications" page but it is incomplete and needs tidying in the 3rd party documentation section. 
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications

Most of the Docs Team avoids wiki-mark-up because the term "mark-up" sounds vaguely similar to html and html sounds too much like coding.  Those that do try it find it 'remarkably' easy but then get swept-up back into doing the guides.

Help with the wiki would be much appreciated or directly with the guides would be really great. 
http://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/documenters/

I am not sure if this wiki-page is at all useful but it might be
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Team

Regards from
Tom :slight_smile:

#15

Greetings to you all. I'm new to Libre Office.

I'm wondering if there's a way to duplicate/replace attributes from one paragraph to another in so that they are formatted identically.

A frequent problem for me (typically when I copy & paste from elsewhere) is that two sentences/paragraphs just won't line up properly (perhaps even in a numbered list), I assume due to various formatting reasons including different fonts, sizes, tabs, margins, alignment, and/or anything else that might affect placement and display on the page. They seem to be the same in the original source as far as I can tell, but once copied and pasted to a document in Libre some of the paragraphs seem to get out of wack.

Trying to apply the exact same attributes to the paragraph or sentence that's out of wack just doesn't seem to work - probably because I don't know what attributes have been applied and/or simply don't know how to get the same effect in a consistent way.

Perhaps there is an "attribute tree" mode so that I can see what set of attributes has been applied? Either just plain text or perhaps through a graphical representation maybe? I guess I don't need to see it if I can simply apply from one to another - sort of like the eye dropper from a paint program copies the color from one spot so you can apply the same color to another spot only here instead of color, it would be text placement & display attributes.

Thank you in advance.

#16

Please don't hijack a subject.The possibility of a meaningful answer is much diminished.
Make a new E-mail with the correct subject header.
Joep

#17

Take a look at what they do have...

http://www.odfauthors.org/

#18

One of the reasons I first download OO - now LO - was due to the
ease of copying in the .txt documents;
          [well, the Impress program impressed me over MSFT's poor one]

       Has this changed? ... if I were to determine how to update from .4
to .5, would I too have the problems which are noted below ;-(

Greetings to you all. I'm new to Libre Office.

#19

Hi :slight_smile:
I think the "Getting Started" guide, Chapter 3 "Using Stylers and Templates" deals with the issue
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications

Also you can remove the formatting contained in copied text by using
Ctrl Shift v
instead of just
Ctrl v
or use paste-special to paste as plain text.

Importing plain text from a .txt file is slightly different and doesn't appear to have changed so it still works afaik.
Regards from
Tom :slight_smile:

#20

Actually, this the bug , that LOO 3.5.5 version that is marked as EN GB here
http://www.libreoffice.org/download/, when installed on start up goes with
EN US setting as UI language - this causes the problem decsribed here, that
then such LOO is not paired with help module EN GB without change in
parametrs of UI lnaguage.

The wrong file of LOO EN US is placed now instead of LOO EN Gb, this should
be jsut excahnged for correct one.

I files bug 52172 about this, but somehow it doesn' t seem that this simple
and starightforward issue is acknowledged.
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=52172