Page Numbering Difficulties

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#1

I'm using LibreOffice Version: 4.2.0.1 Build ID:
7bf567613a536ded11709b952950c9e8f7181a4a
with 64 bit Ubuntu 12.04 LTS

I have a reasonably large document (over 300 pages) which has several
appendices - each of which has specific page style formatting.

So, I created page styles for each of the appendices. At the end of the body
of the text, I did "Insert | Manual Break", checked "Page Break", picked the
style for the first appendix, and DID NOT check the "Change Page Number"
box.

I then repeat the process for each succeeding appendix.

This seems to work fine, and the page numbers continue from the previous
portion just as I would expect. BUT-BUT:

BUT - if I paste or insert anything into ANY of the appendices, the
beginning page for each of the appendices changes to 0 (zero). This can be
confirmed both with the page number displayed in the footers as well as the
"Page n/n" display on the bar at the bottom of Writer.

To "fix" this, I need to go to the end of each part of the document, delete
all of the carriage returns (how can I make the page breaks visible, by the
way?), and then do the "Insert | Manual Break" sequence all over again.

So I've now come to the conclusion that I shouldn't bother redoing this
until I'm finished with the document, as it seems quite Sisyphean to do so.

This is seriously, seriously annoying. I tried duplicating this problem with
a very small document, but of course everything works flawlessly (I think).

So - three questions:
1) Does anyone have any idea what is going on? Is it something I'm doing, or
is this perhaps a bug?

2) I would think that one could view where the page breaks are in a
document, but I can't seem to figure out how to do that. Is this possible
and, if so, how?

3) Unlike other styles, it doesn't seem possible to create a page style that
is "linked with" (i.e. "based on") another page style. Will this ever be
possible?

Thanks very much for any pointers. I'm spending so much time fighting with
this that I've almost forgotten what it is I'm writing about in the first
place ...

Frank

#2

Hi Frank,

CVAlkan schrieb:

I'm using LibreOffice Version: 4.2.0.1 Build ID:
7bf567613a536ded11709b952950c9e8f7181a4a
with 64 bit Ubuntu 12.04 LTS

I have a reasonably large document (over 300 pages) which has several
appendices - each of which has specific page style formatting.

So, I created page styles for each of the appendices. At the end of the body
of the text, I did "Insert | Manual Break", checked "Page Break", picked the
style for the first appendix, and DID NOT check the "Change Page Number"
box.

I then repeat the process for each succeeding appendix.

This seems to work fine, and the page numbers continue from the previous
portion just as I would expect. BUT-BUT:

BUT - if I paste or insert anything into ANY of the appendices, the
beginning page for each of the appendices changes to 0 (zero). This can be
confirmed both with the page number displayed in the footers as well as the
"Page n/n" display on the bar at the bottom of Writer.

To "fix" this, I need to go to the end of each part of the document, delete
all of the carriage returns (how can I make the page breaks visible, by the
way?), and then do the "Insert | Manual Break" sequence all over again.

So I've now come to the conclusion that I shouldn't bother redoing this
until I'm finished with the document, as it seems quite Sisyphean to do so.

This is seriously, seriously annoying. I tried duplicating this problem with
a very small document, but of course everything works flawlessly (I think).

So - three questions:
1) Does anyone have any idea what is going on? Is it something I'm doing, or
is this perhaps a bug?

2) I would think that one could view where the page breaks are in a
document, but I can't seem to figure out how to do that. Is this possible
and, if so, how?

3) Unlike other styles, it doesn't seem possible to create a page style that
is "linked with" (i.e. "based on") another page style. Will this ever be
possible?

Thanks very much for any pointers. I'm spending so much time fighting with
this that I've almost forgotten what it is I'm writing about in the first
place ...

You are likely affected by
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=73164
and/or
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=72452

Please try your document (a copy of it!) with a current build from trunk or go back to version 4.1

Kind regards
Regina

#3

Hi Regina:

Thanks so much for responding. Bug 72452 is very definitely what I am
experiencing, but in reading through the thread I thought it said that the
"fix" was put into version 4.2 which I'm using.

However, I will hop out of here right now and see if there is a newer build
than what I'm using. I don't want to go back to an earlier version because
there was a bug there (sorry, I can't remember what it was) that affected me
and which I wanted to get rid of.

I'll post back here if I find a newer build and it works. (And I will use a
"copy" of the document as you so wisely suggest).

Guten Tag, und Danke !!

Frank

#4

Hi Regina:

I forgot to mention that I had originally written a large portion of the
document in MS Word and imported it into Writer.

Given some of the comments in the Bug thread for Bug 72452, I thought that
might be important.

Frank

#5

Hi Again Regina:

The version I currently have installed is from
LibreOffice_4.2.0.1_Linux_x86-64_deb.tar.gz (19-Dec-2013 13:52). This shows
up in the help dialog as Version: 4.2.0.1 Build ID:
7bf567613a536ded11709b952950c9e8f7181a4a.

So if this version contains the "fix" I suspect it wasn't complete.

Assuming that the fix is just for the code, is it possible that some remnant
of the bug remains in the document (e.g. in style definitions or something)?
If so, is there any known way to "purge" these things?

Or is there a newer version of Writer/Office for x86-64 Linux somewhere. It
looked like the 4.2.1 version isn't due until February some time.

Frank

#6

Hi Frank,

CVAlkan schrieb:

Hi Again Regina:

The version I currently have installed is from
LibreOffice_4.2.0.1_Linux_x86-64_deb.tar.gz (19-Dec-2013 13:52). This shows
up in the help dialog as Version: 4.2.0.1 Build ID:
7bf567613a536ded11709b952950c9e8f7181a4a.

So if this version contains the "fix" I suspect it wasn't complete.

Assuming that the fix is just for the code, is it possible that some remnant
of the bug remains in the document (e.g. in style definitions or something)?
If so, is there any known way to "purge" these things?

Or is there a newer version of Writer/Office for x86-64 Linux somewhere. It
looked like the 4.2.1 version isn't due until February some time.

You can try a daily (toward 4.3) from
http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/master/
or follow Bjoern's announcement
https://plus.google.com/101094190333184858950/posts/7ZxucEYpFbF
I don't know, whether it is newer than yours.

Kind regards
Regina

#7

Hi Regina:

I downloaded and installed what seems to be the 4.3 beta:
Version: 4.3.0.0.alpha0+ Build ID: be4035d00f37c492494fa7860955b6d0868c7f77

I loaded the document in question, and all the page numbers seem to be
handled correctly, so I suspect that the particular bug has been corrected.

My other impression is that 4.3 seems to be a bit snappier (e.g. while
scrolling), which is always good. The only "negative" I noticed (which
really isn't a big deal) is that returning from the Page Preview to Editing
mode is noticeably slower. Strange.

So - Thanks Much ...

Frank