[pootle] creating projects for 4.4 now

l10n
#1

Hi *,

so in case you wonder why pootle is unresponsive in the next hours....

ciao
Christian

#2

Will you also remove 4.1 and 4.2 projects?

Regards

#3

Hi Sergio,

> Will you also remove 4.1 and 4.2 projects?

I will remove 4.1 projects, but I'll keep 4.2 for now.

Ok. Thanks

#4

Hi Sergio,

Will you also remove 4.1 and 4.2 projects?

I will remove 4.1 projects, but I'll keep 4.2 for now.

ciao
Christian

#5

HI Christian,

After creating project I don´t have any 4.3 projects. 4.1 is removed, 4.2
is in pootle but no 4.3.

And 4.4 is fully localized,. Something should went wrong during migration.

Regards

#6

Forgot to mention that I´m working on Portuguese.

Regards

#7

Hi,

Forgot to mention that I´m working on Portuguese.

Regards

HI Christian,

After creating project I don´t have any 4.3 projects. 4.1 is removed, 4.2
is in pootle but no 4.3.

And 4.4 is fully localized,. Something should went wrong during migration.

Same problem we have in Japanese. Please check.

Regards,

#8

Hi Sérgio, *,

>
> After creating project I don´t have any 4.3 projects. 4.1 is removed,
4.2 is
> in pootle but no 4.3.
>
> And 4.4 is fully localized,. Something should went wrong during
migration.

No, the migration just started for real. The machine was moved
physically this morning, so couldn't work on it before that.

The 4.4. is popluated, since that is just the old 4.3 projects that
were renamed.

Ah. Ok

I'm currently copying over the contents to the still-empty 4.3
projects and will trigger a sync/refresh stats.

4.4 projects have *not* been updated against latest templates yet, it
still is based on 4.3 templates. That will follow after creation of
4.3 projects is done.

Can we do it ourselves?

Regards

#9

Got it. Thanks

#10

Hi Sérgio,

[...]
4.4 projects have *not* been updated against latest templates yet, it
still is based on 4.3 templates. That will follow after creation of
4.3 projects is done.

Can we do it ourselves?

No.
1st of all: pootle doesn't know about the new templates yet, I.e.
"update against templates" won't do anything right now
2nd updates triggered using the web-ui have caused the problem of
getting strings from other languages mixed in
3rd non-translation-relevant changes in strings would not be migrated.

So 2nd is the reason why I'd say: Please don't.
3rd would not be so bad, but people will complain if I don't prepare
the translations accordingly beforehand...

ciao
Christian

#11

Hi Sérgio, *,

After creating project I don´t have any 4.3 projects. 4.1 is removed, 4.2 is
in pootle but no 4.3.

And 4.4 is fully localized,. Something should went wrong during migration.

No, the migration just started for real. The machine was moved
physically this morning, so couldn't work on it before that.

The 4.4. is popluated, since that is just the old 4.3 projects that
were renamed.

I'm currently copying over the contents to the still-empty 4.3
projects and will trigger a sync/refresh stats.

4.4 projects have *not* been updated against latest templates yet, it
still is based on 4.3 templates. That will follow after creation of
4.3 projects is done.

ciao
Christian

#12

In data martedì 11 novembre 2014 14:53:53, Christian Lohmaier ha scritto:

Hi Sérgio,

>> [...]
>> 4.4 projects have *not* been updated against latest templates yet, it
>> still is based on 4.3 templates. That will follow after creation of
>> 4.3 projects is done.
>
> Can we do it ourselves?

No.
1st of all: pootle doesn't know about the new templates yet, I.e.
"update against templates" won't do anything right now
2nd updates triggered using the web-ui have caused the problem of
getting strings from other languages mixed in
3rd non-translation-relevant changes in strings would not be migrated.

So 2nd is the reason why I'd say: Please don't.
3rd would not be so bad, but people will complain if I don't prepare
the translations accordingly beforehand...

So Christian, we can see the new project on Pootle, but the new strings aren't
uploaded yet, correct? :slight_smile:

Ciao

#13

Hi Christian,

I see that LibreOffice 4.4 – UI project added 8333 messages.
Does it mean that we can start our work on 4.4 l10n? E.g. update
finished, everything is ok?

Thanks!

#14

Damn...
Did you manage to fix those hardly changed strings with only double dot on end (:slight_smile: or that's most of translation workload?

Mihovil

19.11.2014 u 4:03, Baurzhan Muftakhidinov je napisao/la:

#15

Þann mið 19.nóv 2014 03:03, skrifaði Baurzhan Muftakhidinov:

Hi *,

so in case you wonder why pootle is unresponsive in the next hours....

ciao
Christian

Hi Christian,

I see that LibreOffice 4.4 – UI project added 8333 messages.
Does it mean that we can start our work on 4.4 l10n? E.g. update
finished, everything is ok?

Thanks!

Of those 8333 new messages seems that quite many are just a change of shortcut symbol; e.g. '~' --> '_' (conversion to Glade ???).
A good translation memory helps a lot here :wink:

Regards
Sveinn í Felli

#16

Hi *,

I see that LibreOffice 4.4 – UI project added 8333 messages.
Does it mean that we can start our work on 4.4 l10n?

help has been updated against latest templates, UI still is in
progress (at or language currently)

E.g. update
finished, everything is ok?

No, not finished. Feel free to work on help, and on UI in case you're
language code comes before "or" in the alphabet. But be aware that:

* Since the update is still running, pootle might be slow
* Since it is only an update against templates, but no automatic
translation-run yet, all strings that only have changes in
not-to-be-translated parts of the strings are flagged as new as well.

Feel free to translate those, but don't complain "there are so many
useless string changes" yet :slight_smile:

I'm working on automated migration of those strings like the last time.

That won't cover the shortcut changes though, that I think is too
"risky"/to hard to map properly. But Sophie already took care of
having LO's translation read into the translation memory, so that
should hopefully help there :slight_smile: (not sure whether that is completed
already)

So again:
* help is done, but with no automated translation, so you might get
strings where only tags did change
* ui still is processing, only languages with language-code that come
before "or" are done updating against the templates
* if you trigger the update_against_templates from web-UI, don't
complain afterwards that you have translations from other languages
mixed in (in other words: just wait please)
* automated translation will be done after the current update is fully
completed.

ciao
Christian

#17

Hi *,

Hi *,

so in case you wonder why pootle is unresponsive in the next hours....

right now auto-translating help for changed help-IDs - should save
around 3150-3200 words to translate per language.

also updating ui against updated templates (11 changed, 5 added lines)

ciao
Christian

#18

#. kidC6
#: smres.src
msgctxt ""
"smres.src\n"
"STR_FUCHSIA\n"
"string.text"
msgid "funchsia"
msgstr ""

should be: msgid "fuchsia"

Donaldo

#19

This one was fixed by Stanislav:
http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=772befa08f02b08da1ab493896a0744bc73781c7

Adolfo

#20

That's good. Thank you.

Regards
Donaldo