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#1

Hi,

Von: Rimas Kudelis

I think this should be sorted out within your team/community. I don't
think there is an official process inside TDF to resolve such conflicts.
It would be nice to have one though, maybe the TDF officials could craft
a fair policy for such cases?

The problem here is that we (SC) are aware of the issue - but it is very hard
to find a fair solution even in this single case. It would be almost impossible
to draft a fair policy.

Currently Cor was going to collect more information and trying to
do as much as possible to resolve this. But: It is an issue of the brazilian
community - and needs to be resolved there. The sad thing is that we
(TDF) can hardly resolve problems of the brazilian community. But if we
can help, we will surely do.

I know both, Claudio and Olivier personally from several meetings at
conferences - and I consider both as respected friends. But what should
I do, now that they seem to not respect each other anymore? Is it
up to me to decide whom I pay more respect? I did not do so the
years before and I'm not going to do this now.

For the current request of granting admin access of other people for pt-BR,
I'd love to see this resolved within the brazilian team.
As Rimas mentioned - looking at who is doing the work I currently
see, that Olivier *is* actively maintaining the translation. At the same time
I do not see that he is blocking other people's work. E.g. there are
no pending suggestions. That there is only one admin for pt-BR and others
can only make suggestions is not a very special case. E.g. German team
works quite the same way (but we have two admins).

Anyway: I'd suggest to have two responsible translators / admins for
pt-BR sooner or later. *But* (and that's quite normal to FLOSS projects),
before becoming admin you should work on on the translation (means
make suggestions).

Ok, If all things fail, there is still the option to "remove" someone
from the roles granted within TDF. This needs to be adressed at to the
Steering Committee. But before going this route, you should contact the
Membership committee (Sophie, Fridrich, Me). We are in charge of
evaluating am member's "merit" anyway. But as said - we are already aware.

Well ... all of this are just my thoughts.

Regards,

André

#2

Hello,

Hi,

> Von: Rimas Kudelis

>
> I think this should be sorted out within your team/community. I
> don't think there is an official process inside TDF to resolve such
> conflicts. It would be nice to have one though, maybe the TDF
> officials could craft a fair policy for such cases?

The problem here is that we (SC) are aware of the issue - but it is
very hard to find a fair solution even in this single case. It would
be almost impossible to draft a fair policy.

Currently Cor was going to collect more information and trying to
do as much as possible to resolve this. But: It is an issue of the
brazilian community - and needs to be resolved there. The sad thing
is that we (TDF) can hardly resolve problems of the brazilian
community. But if we can help, we will surely do.

I know both, Claudio and Olivier personally from several meetings at
conferences - and I consider both as respected friends. But what
should I do, now that they seem to not respect each other anymore? Is
it up to me to decide whom I pay more respect? I did not do so the
years before and I'm not going to do this now.

For the current request of granting admin access of other people for
pt-BR, I'd love to see this resolved within the brazilian team.
As Rimas mentioned - looking at who is doing the work I currently
see, that Olivier *is* actively maintaining the translation. At the
same time I do not see that he is blocking other people's work. E.g.
there are no pending suggestions. That there is only one admin for
pt-BR and others can only make suggestions is not a very special
case. E.g. German team works quite the same way (but we have two
admins).

Anyway: I'd suggest to have two responsible translators / admins for
pt-BR sooner or later. *But* (and that's quite normal to FLOSS
projects), before becoming admin you should work on on the
translation (means make suggestions).

Ok, If all things fail, there is still the option to "remove" someone
from the roles granted within TDF. This needs to be adressed at to the
Steering Committee. But before going this route, you should contact
the Membership committee (Sophie, Fridrich, Me). We are in charge of
evaluating am member's "merit" anyway. But as said - we are already
aware.

Well ... all of this are just my thoughts.

I was drafting an answer, but André's mail summarizes my own thoughts
very well.
+1

Best,