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#1

With Win 7, LO 4.4.7.2 (also confirmed with 4.2.7.2) if one does F1 - shortcut keys - general, one finds a section (here truncated):

Practical Text Input Fields

1.

    You can open a context menu, which contains some of the most
    often-used commands.

2.

    Use the shortcut keys Ctrl+Shift+S to open the *Special Characters*
    dialog to insert one or more special characters.

3.

    Use Ctrl+A to select the entire text. Use the right or left arrow
    key to remove the selection.

4.

    Double-click a word to select it.

5.

    A triple-click in a text input field selects the entire field. A
    triple-click in a text document selects the current sentence.

6.

    Use Ctrl+Del to delete everything from the cursor position to the
    end of the word.

7.

    By using Ctrl and right or left arrow key, the cursor will jump from
    word to word; if you also hold down the Shift key, one word after
    the other is selected.

8.

    INSRT is used to switch between the insert mode and the overwrite
    mode and back again.

9.

    Drag-and-drop can be used within and outside of a text box.

10.

    The Ctrl+Z shortcut keys are used to undo modifications one step at
    a time; the text will then have the status it had before the first
    change.

#2 is wrong, and so blatantly wrong in the ordinary context, that I have to wonder whether there is some misunderstanding on my part.

Does the "Text Input Fields" title imply some area of editing other than normal document work, where different rules apply?

If we have the error that we appear to have, is there any person/group interested in notification?

I have no way to check, but imagine that this text has been this way for a long time, implying that there may not be much interest in correction.

#10 is also wrong as written, or at least incomplete, inasmuch as normally multiple ^Z strokes would be needed to return to the initial condition.

Y.f.t.R.,

trj

#2

With Win 7, LO 4.4.7.2 (also confirmed with 4.2.7.2) if one does F1 - shortcut keys - general, one finds a section (here truncated):

Practical Text Input Fields
2. Use the shortcut keys Ctrl+Shift+S to open the *Special Characters* dialog to insert one or more special characters.
10. The Ctrl+Z shortcut keys are used to undo modifications one step at a time; the text will then have the status it had before the first change.

#2 is wrong, and so blatantly wrong in the ordinary context, that I have to wonder whether there is some misunderstanding on my part. Does the "Text Input Fields" title imply some area of editing other than normal document work, where different rules apply?

Yes. It means a Text Input Field as created by Insert | Fields > | Other... | Functions | Input Field. Whilst the Input Field dialogue is open (either when creating the field or later when editing it), Ctrl+Shift+S does indeed open the Special Characters dialogue.

#10 is also wrong as written, or at least incomplete, inasmuch as normally multiple ^Z strokes would be needed to return to the initial condition.

I suspect the author would claim that this is what is intended by "one step at a time" and that "before the first change" refers to whichever changes have been undone.

I trust this helps.

Brian Barker

#3

marianne-x wrote:

With Win 7, LO 4.4.7.2 (also confirmed with 4.2.7.2) if one does F1 -
shortcut keys - general, one finds a section (here truncated):

Practical Text Input Fields

...

2.

    Use the shortcut keys Ctrl+Shift+S to open the *Special Characters*
    dialog to insert one or more special characters.

...

10.

    The Ctrl+Z shortcut keys are used to undo modifications one step at
    a time; the text will then have the status it had before the first
    change.

#2 is wrong, and so blatantly wrong in the ordinary context, that I have
to wonder whether there is some misunderstanding on my part.

Does the "Text Input Fields" title imply some area of editing other than
normal document work, where different rules apply?

I think it refers to entering text in text fields on a form, where Ctrl+Shift+S does indeed bring up the "Special Characters" dialog. It's not entirely obvious that's what it's referring to though.

If we have the error that we appear to have, is there any person/group
interested in notification?

It's probably best to file on the bug tracker <https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/> (after checking that the issue isn't already reported). After selecting the "LibreOffice" product there's a "Documentation" component described as "Documentation includes local LibreOffice Help, the Help Wiki and all Manuals."

I have no way to check, but imagine that this text has been this way for
a long time, implying that there may not be much interest in correction.

#10 is also wrong as written, or at least incomplete, inasmuch as
normally multiple ^Z strokes would be needed to return to the initial
condition.

It does say "one step at a time", but then saying "the text will then have the status it had before the first change" is a bit confusing. I guess that's if you repeatedly press Ctrl+Z.

If you're reporting issues with this section, I notice the English (UK) help for 5.1.1 has two more items after number 10, which are numbered 1 and 2... I'm guessing that should be 11 and 12!