Printing problems

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#1

Hello,

I search how to :

- configure all the printers with A4 by defaulr
- configure all the printers with postcript level and not PDF

And somebody know why with CUPS, i need to reload the printers

"Fichier " -> "Paramètrage de l'imprimante"
( "FIle" -> Printer setting )

Thanks for your help.

I work on debian with CUPS on an other server.

LO : last version

Sincerely,

Jean

#2

Hi,

I search to set A4 paper size only in LibreOffice because i have set in my
printserver CUPS the option A4.

In France, we use this paper size. If the paper size is US Letter in LO, i
doesn't work.

I would like that the settings would be done for all the users.

I use Debian squeeze with Trinity Desktop.

Sincerely,

Jean

#3

Jean,

To manage your printers if the OS is having problems use localhost:631 get to the CUPS admin. Findig the correct driver can be tricking. For example some Konica-Minolta printers have the correct driver listed under Minolta.

I do not know why you have to reload the printers unless the wrong driver is installed.

#4

Hi,

I haven't problem with the drivers.

I have about 20 printers configured.

Sincerely,

Jean

#5

Hi :slight_smile:
I find that tricky too actually.  Everyone in this country seems to have their printers configured to print on US letter despite actually using A4.  Then if someone sends them an A4 page to print onto the A4 it comes out as 2 pages with just a tiny bit of the page printed at the top of the next sheet.

On my own machines, well the company's machines, i go around and set them to print on A4 but then if a new machine arrives i have no idea whether it's trying to print to A4 or what.  Also what about new users logging in at a machine they haven't used before?  Are they now on US Letter again or not?

It seems that with LibreOffice it always seems to know that A4 should be being used.  None of this messing around. 
Regards from
Tom :slight_smile:

#6

You want to get all of the printers to work no matter what applications print to them? You have how many PCs on your network?

In another post you state there are 20 printers configured.

So far, I do not know of any easy way to setup 5, 10, or 20 users to have the same settings for LibreOffice, and add over 10 printers in the mix makes it worse.

How many of these printers have a display panel build in? I know that you can set the default paper types there. But you still need to setup the LO application to default to the printer.

Is there any way you can setup a default

".config/libreoffice"

hidden folder and place it on every PC running LO. If you create one that has no user info in it, you should be able to copy it to the other Debian-based PCs. Windows users would be harder.

To be honest, I have only about 6 systems configured for, currently, three network printers. Two systems are dual-booting Ubuntu and Windows laptops.

But it seems you are wanting to set up many printers to the Postscript instead of PDF on several computers.

Sorry, but there is no easy way to do this.

As I said, you can use the LO Printer Administration application listed in the same menu as LibreOffice. That will be the easiest way to work on all of the printers that that computer has access to. Click on the printer and the Properties button. Go to the "Device" option and change the "printer language type" of the selected printer. That is the only way I know how to do it easily for all the printers that that computer has access to.

Then if you did not set up any information in the

Tools / Options / LibreOffice / User Data

that is only for that system, then you may have the "generic" ".config/libreoffice" information that could be copied to the other Debian-based computers you are using on your network. By replacing the original file with this "generic one" you should have all of the systems setup the same way. The only issue might be if you are running both 32-bit and 64-bit Debian-based systems on your network.

Of course I am assuming that you are not the only one on the network with 20 printers to do your bidding.

#7

Hi. Do you mean for the default page size to be A4 in the document also.
I have to set printing to postscript for every document because it does not stay with the setting.
Steve

#8

In an Ubuntu system, the default papersize is held in the /etc/papersize
file. If you set the language to say US, papersize can be set to US Letter
even though the printer default is actually A4. Similarly an English system
in America can be set to A4 although the actual printer is US Letter. It is
the difference between the actual Language setting and the physical printer.

I would always advise you check this setting before setting the LibreOffice
printer defaults. Peter

#9

> Hello,
>
> I search how to :
>
> - configure all the printers with A4 by defaulr
> - configure all the printers with postcript level and not PDF
>
> And somebody know why with CUPS, i need to reload the printers
>
> "Fichier " -> "Paramètrage de l'imprimante"
> ( "FIle" -> Printer setting )
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
> I work on debian with CUPS on an other server.
>
> LO : last version
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Jean

Hi. Do you mean for the default page size to be A4 in the document
also. I have to set printing to postscript for every document because
it does not stay with the setting.
Steve

Steve look under File --> Printer setup-->Properties-->Device (at least
in CALC). Think its the same in writter.

lower left says: "Printer Language TYpe to Right is selection box
I selected "Automatic: PostScript (Level from driver).

You can also select actual level with pull down arrow at end of box.
Whn I shut CALC down and restart it is still there.

Hope this helps.

Russ

#10

Thanks Russ. That is what should happen, but for me (and others) it always reverts to PDF when I open Calc again.
There has been quite some discussion on this previously around not being able to print landscape from LO, it is just something I need to remember to do.
Steve

#11

>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I search how to :
>>>
>>> - configure all the printers with A4 by defaulr
>>> - configure all the printers with postcript level and not PDF
>>>
>>> And somebody know why with CUPS, i need to reload the printers
>>>
>>> "Fichier " -> "Paramètrage de l'imprimante"
>>> ( "FIle" -> Printer setting )
>>>
>>> Thanks for your help.
>>>
>>> I work on debian with CUPS on an other server.
>>>
>>> LO : last version
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>>
>>> Jean
>>
>> Hi. Do you mean for the default page size to be A4 in the document
>> also. I have to set printing to postscript for every document
>> because
>> it does not stay with the setting.
>> Steve
>
> Steve look under File --> Printer setup-->Properties-->Device (at
> least in CALC). Think its the same in writter.
>
> lower left says: "Printer Language TYpe to Right is selection box
>
> I selected "Automatic: PostScript (Level from driver).
>
> You can also select actual level with pull down arrow at end of box.
> Whn I shut CALC down and restart it is still there.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Russ

Thanks Russ. That is what should happen, but for me (and others) it
always reverts to PDF when I open Calc again.
There has been quite some discussion on this previously around not
being able to print landscape from LO, it is just something I need to
remember to do.
Steve

Me too! I was having this problem since upgrading, until I read Kracked
_P_P's thread above. I completly forgot to change it.
I am using LO: Version: 4.1.0.1
      Build ID: 410m0(Build:1)
and so far it is retaining the Postscript option. I have opened and
closed both CALC and Writter several times. I will see what happens
tonight when I shut down.

#12

So Peter

If the French person went into that "/etc/papersize" file and made sure it was listed as A4, then all of the printer drivers in her Debian [or Debian-based] system will automatically default to A4? Will LO then default to A4 for the default paper sizes of the printer and document?

Also, have you found any place where you pick up using Postscript instead of PDF for the default printer language used for all the printers connected to that system?

Like I stated before, I have only 3 active network printers, and one that is almost never used, attached to my network and about a half-dozen Ubuntu/Windows systems to setup to the Postscript printer language over PDF. So I have it easy. The OP has about 20 printers and who-knows the number of systems attached to the network. There has to be an easier way than what I do to make sure the printers use Postscript.

#13

Hi Steve

This sounds to me personally that you have a system wide setting somewhere to default document type, or printed type to PDF. This is overriding anything you "set" in LO, hence you re-opening Calc and find it set back to PDF. What O/S (Gnu Linux/Distro) are you running, as I am using Ubuntu Raring.

I am on the road at the moment, with a client (windows only I'm afraid, so cannot test here), but can check later in Ubuntu on how to change your system default settings.

Regards

Andrew Brown

#14

OpenSuse 12.2.

Cheers,
Steve

#15

The system PAPERSIZE is usually set when installing and updating an Ubuntu
system using PAPERCONFIG.

If the papersize file does not exist, programs using the paper library
default to using letter as a fall-back value. Permitted papersize values
include a3 a4 a5 b5 letter legal executive note and 11×17.
When the default papersize is changed using paperconfig, it notifies other
packages of the change by running the scripts in the /etc/libpaper.d
directory if any. My system has none.

When I upgraded to Ubuntu 12.04 my PAPERSIZE was changed to LETTER and LibO
kept defaulting to LETTER. It took me a while to find the problem. Likewise
my American netbook was initially set to letter although my printer was A4.
What caused the problem I don't know.

However, the software needs to check the PAPERSIZE file on startup or
installation. LibO seems to do this, not certain about PDF reader.

One symptom of a paper size mismatch (A4 thinks it is letter) can be a blank
sheet of paper ejected after the printed page.
Printing has always been a dark art. My wife has a special requirement only
available in letter size which keeps me on my toes. Peter