Printing specific pages in 4.1 writer

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#1

Hello list

On a Debian like system (Mint 14), my newly installed 32-bit LibO-4.1. is creating a bit of problems for me. This latest issue is trying to print specific pages within a Writer document: the print dialog box does not allow editing the specific pages text box. In order to make this work - i.e. to select the pages I wanted - I closed LibO4.1. and re-opened it, then it worked.

Anybody else experienced this?

I've had two relatively minor issues with Writer LibO-4.1 (password-related and the page selection for printing mentioned here) which don't really inspire confidence as these are features that have been preserved since the OOo days ... so not at all sure why they don't work as expected with the 4.1 release.

Anyway, will continue to test 4.1 for a while, but am inclined to roll back to 4.0.4 for doing work at this point.

Cheers

#2

I do not use Mint due to printer issues. The biggest one wasthatit would not recognizeor even find it on my network my main network color printer that Ubuntu has not problems finding/using. But it would see it via a USB cable. I had other printer/driver issues for it to print "properly" on the other printers on my network.

You are running 32-bit Mint 14? Mate or Cinnamon desktop?
You removed the previously installed version of LO, correct?

Did you have any problems with 4.0.4 printing page selections?

In Tools / Options / LibreOffice / General
have you checked "Use LibreOffice dialogs" in the "Print dialogs" section?

Check it if not. If already checked [which I used for Ubuntu 12.04LTS] then un-check it. See if that changes anything. This option does not show up with the Windows users, so they would not know this. I had to check it to get one of my printers to duplex properly. I am told others need to have it unchecked for their printer[s].

#3

Hi Kracked_P_P

One correction, your last statement, the option to check "Use LiberOffice dialogues" is available for Windows users under the same "Tools / Options / LibreOffice / General". In this part of the "General" settings it's under the heading "Open/Save dialogues".

Regards

Andrew Brown

#4

Hi there

Thanks for your reply.

Yes - all printing worked fine with Mint 14 Mate using pre-4.1 versions of LibO.

I am unable to reproduce the error - but it required me to shut LibO down and restart it for me to successfully print.

Perhaps it was just a one-off?

#5

Last time I checked, Windows version did not have the --- "Use LibreOffice dialogs" in the "Print dialogs" section.

I do not think the Print dialogs would be, or should be, listed under open/save dialogs section. That would not make sense. Are you saying the "print dialogs" check box is actually listed in that section of the "General" dialog box?

Well, I have not installed 4.1 yet, but the "Print dialogs" option was shown on the DEB 64-bit version [Ubuntu 12.04 and 13.04 installed] and not on the Windows version [Win7 professional and home premium installed]

When I was having all my issues with my printer[s] not duplexing correctly, it seemed that most of the people who tried to help were Windows users. None of the even suggested the "print dialog" check/uncheck option. After a few weeks, I just started experimenting and found that checking the "print dialogs" option would make the Epson Artisan 810 printer duplex correctly. The HP Laserjet 2300dn duplexing worked either way. Now that I have a Cannon MG6220 to replace the Epson, I have not unchecked that box to see if the duplexing still worked.

#6

Hi :slight_smile:
The "uses LibreOffice dialogues" is just in one place rather than being scattered around all over the place.  You set it for the entirety of LibreOffice, not on a per-function basis.

Toolos - Options - General

Regards from
Tom :slight_smile:

#7

Yes, but as I said, the "printer dialog" one shows up on my Linux version and not on my Windows version.
That was part of my point.

#8

Hi :slight_smile:
Ahhh.  Sorry, i missed that part.  Also i was wrong anyway because what i pointed to was only the "Load/Save" dialogues.  It's not all the different dialogues at all! :frowning:

Apols and regards from
Tom :slight_smile:

#9

You do remember all those months ago having the duplexing problems and then finding out that the "General" dialog had different things listed in the Windows version than it had in the Debian-based version, right? That "print dialog" was one of those differences. That was what I needed to be checked to get duplexing to work for my old Epson Artisan printer. The Windows version did not need any help, but the Ubuntu 10.04LTS / 12.04LTS did.

#10

HI Kracked_P_P

As to my statement, here is a screenshot of the Windows version of LO 4.0.4.3. indicating the option to check "Use LiberOffice dialogues" under "General". I'll look under my Linux (dual boot) to see what you are referring to. You should see these screenshot, but it will be stripped when forwarded onto the global mail.

Nothing under the "Print" section

Regards

#11

Hi Kracked_P_P

OK, you are correct in that there is an extra dialogue box for the Linux version of LO, in my case LO 4.0.4.2 running under Ubuntu 130.04 Raring Ringtail. See the screenshots below now from Linux. If others want to see this then I will make an entry on Nabble.

The print settings seem the same except for the extra tick box to do "PDF as Standard Print Job Format"

Regards

Andrew Brown

#12

When I had the issue with the duplexing on one printer, it seemed that everyone who was "helping" must have been on Windows, since they did not know what I was talking about with the "extra" dialog check box. Why it is listed in the Linux [Ubuntu 10.04LTS and 12.04LTS for me back then] and not in the Windows installs, I was never given a good answer. I was told that "it was just needed for Linux and not for Windows". Then the fact that for some printers the check box needed to be checked, while other did not, tended to make the issue a little worse to figure out.

#13

Hi Kracked_P_P

You have me all quizzy now about it too. I own a Brother MFC-J6510DW large format multifunction printer, quite a process to set it up in Ubuntu (like you from 10.04 to present 13.04) and this box was ticked by default in LO's settings. I will experiment with it unticked and see if it affects my printer.

Regards

Andrew Brown

#14

Hi

I was asked to post the screenshots in this reply to Kracked_P_P, on Nabble
so here I go

<http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n4068330/Screenshot1.jpg>

<http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n4068330/Screenshot2.jpg>

#15

Likewise for this post follwoing after the post with the first screenshots.
This was for LO in Linux

<http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n4068332/Screenshot3.jpg>

<http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n4068332/Screenshot4.jpg>

#16

I do not use Nabble, but would they want my screenshot of the checkbox?

#17

To get my Cannon printer to work with Linux, I first was told that they do not support Linux. Well, the UK Cannon site had the drivers and supported Linux even though the USA site does not.

I had to download 4 files. Two for the printing and two for the scanning.

I use a HP Officejet 7000 wide format printer - up to 13 by 19 inches. The next model had duplexing, but mine was on sale for half off. It took some "tweaking" of the HP Linux drivers to get Ubuntu 12.04LTS to allow for paper larger than letter or legal size. I mostly run tabloid size paper [11 by 17 inch sheets] but I have photos and "standard" paper for the 13x19 and 11x17. I sometimes print the 8.5 x 14 inch legal paper in it, since it is easier to "insert" it in the wide format printer than it is for my other color printer.

Mint 13 and 14 would not "see" the Cannon printer on the network, but worked fine using the USB port.

I have been using Ubuntu since 9.xx days and LO since the first release [not RC] that came out. Been using using Ubuntu as my main desktop OS since Feb 2010, and still have a lot to learn about what I can and cannot do with it. I never could get WINE to work.

As for Printers and LO, I find that I have the least troubles with an HP printer and its drivers when dealing with printing all the different options within LO. It was my HP Laserjet 2300dn printer that had no problems with duplexing within LO without that "pesky" printer dialog check box, but my Epson Artisan 810 inkjet printer needed the checked box to duplex. I have kept it checked and decided not to try any other options since my Cannon MG6220 inkjet [replacement for the worn out Epson] worked fine in the duplexing as I had the options setup.

Now there are some things that these printers can do, according to the Windows 7 drivers that are not listed in the Ubuntu/Debian drivers, but I hardly remember what they are and will use my Win7 laptop [dual booting with Ubuntu] to print if needed.

I had a set of screen shots on a Wiki page that showed the check box option in Linux, to help with those people who are having troubles with Linux printers and LO duplexing. But, the last time I looked, someone deleted that page. It seemed that someone did not want the users to know that there might be an issue with duplex printing with Linux versions of LO, and the posting of the needed instructions to the needed check box to help fix that issue with some printers.

Hi Kracked_P_P

You have me all quizzy now about it too. I own a Brother MFC-J6510DW large format multifunction printer, quite a process to set it up in Ubuntu (like you from 10.04 to present 13.04) and this box was ticked by default in LO's settings. I will experiment with it unticked and see if it affects my printer.

Regards

Andrew Brown

When I had the issue with the duplexing on one printer, it seemed that everyone who was "helping" must have been on Windows, since they did not know what I was talking about with the "extra" dialog check box. Why it is listed in the Linux [Ubuntu 10.04LTS and 12.04LTS for me back then] and not in the Windows installs, I was never given a good answer. I was told that "it was just needed for Linux and not for Windows". Then the fact that for some printers the check box needed to be checked, while other did not, tended to make the issue a little worse to figure out.

[snip]

#18

Hi Kracked_P_P

No, not necessary. I was just asked to post the screens as per our discussion, of both the Windows and Linux version of LO, for future reference and use by others.

Regards

Andrew Brown

#19

Hi :slight_smile:
We just got an Oki MB471

Dead easy to set-up to print and does all the duplexing and everything just fine.  Oki had a ppd driver on their website.

There is no driver for faxing and i haven't tried scanning yet either.

I thought the whole thing was going to be a total nightmare in Gnu&Linux because our Oki C810 still doesn't work.  There was a ppd for the C610 but that doesn't work for the 810.  The main problem for me is that there seems to be hundreds of drivers that are listed through OpenPrinting and places specifically for the C810 but none of the ones i have tried so far work at all.

So, i was quite surprised that it took about 10mins per machine to sort the MB471 in Gnu&Linux but about an hour to go through the Windows installer.

Hewlett Packard just seem to be easy whichever system you are using.  They seem to last longer and even appear in 2nd hand listings which hardly any other printers do.  Ages ago i asked this list for advice about the best printer to choose and got some good advice which my boss ignored.

Regards from
Tom :slight_smile: