Problems with Find in 3.4.0

users
#1

I recently upgraded to LO 3.4.0 and I noticed a few days ago that the
Find command no longer works the way it used to, or even at all.

Find and Replace (which used to be the same window as Find, shortcut
<ctl>F) is not <ctl><alt>F, and <ctl>F does nothing except activate
the toolbar for finding text, which doesn't actually do a find at all.

Was this an intentional design change or just a bug in the execution?

I haven't upgraded to 3.4.1 yet because a) it came out so close behind
3.4.0 and b) 3.4.2 is just a few weeks away and I think I can wait.

This isn't a major problem, but it is annoying.  I _had_ <ctl><alt>F
set as my system shortcut to launch Firefox....

Distributor ID: Ubuntu
Description:    Ubuntu 10.10
Release:        10.10
Codename:       maverick

#2

Hi

I recently upgraded to LO 3.4.0 and I noticed a few days ago that the
Find command no longer works the way it used to, or even at all.

Find and Replace (which used to be the same window as Find, shortcut
<ctl>F) is not <ctl><alt>F, and <ctl>F does nothing except activate
the toolbar for finding text, which doesn't actually do a find at all.

Was this an intentional design change or just a bug in the execution?

I haven't upgraded to 3.4.1 yet because a) it came out so close behind
3.4.0 and b) 3.4.2 is just a few weeks away and I think I can wait.

This isn't a major problem, but it is annoying. I _had_ <ctl><alt>F
set as my system shortcut to launch Firefox....

Distributor ID: Ubuntu
Description: Ubuntu 10.10
Release: 10.10
Codename: maverick

I can confirm this with Ubuntu/Pinguy 11.04 and LO 3.4.1 <CTL>-F does
not open a dialog box. I was able to have <CTL>-O open the correct
dialog box.

#3

Please have a look at
http://www.libreoffice.org/download/3-4-new-features-and-fixes/

Best regards
JBF

#4

Thanks, but that is the worst excuse for a change that breaks the
interface I have ever seen - to be more compatible with web
browsers??? An office suite?

Come on, that's just lame.

If that's the justification, why isn't find-and-replace <ctl>h, as in
Word 97? At least that was an office product, not a web browser.

This is just my opinion, but the change is just plain wrong. This is
one of the reasons why major software modifications fail so miserably
- you don't break an existing interface that is ubiquitous. Look at
what happened with Office 2007/2010 (before MS put all that money into
pushing the new ribbon interface that really sucks, or Vista (vs. XP),
etc.

Just plain wrong.

What makes this worse is that, AFAICT, the new find bar doesn't work
either, and it doesn't show up at the bottom of the window, it's a
teeny little toolbar smushed into the right end of another one that is
virtually invisible unless I search for it.

Blecch.

#5

MR ZenWiz wrote:

Find and Replace (which used to be the same window as Find, shortcut
<ctl>F) is not <ctl><alt>F, and <ctl>F does nothing except activate
the toolbar for finding text, which doesn't actually do a find at all.

You can change the keyboard short-cut. The following instructions are
for Windows, they may differ slightly for Ubuntu.
Click Tools > Customise...
Select the "Keyboard" tab.
In the "Shortcut keys" pane, scroll down to "Ctrl + F" and select it.
In the "Category" pane select "Edit"
In the "Function" pane select "Find & Replace"
Then click "Modify" and then "OK"

As far as I can tell, it should then work pretty much identically to
the previous versions.

Regards
Stephan

#6

Stephan Zietsman wrote:

You can change the keyboard short-cut.  The following instructions are
for Windows, they may differ slightly for Ubuntu.
Click Tools > Customise...
Select the "Keyboard" tab.
In the "Shortcut keys" pane, scroll down to "Ctrl + F" and select it.
In the "Category" pane select "Edit"
In the "Function" pane select "Find & Replace"
Then click "Modify" and then "OK"

Correction: After you've selected the "Keyboard" tab, make sure to
select the "LibreoOffice" radio button (top-right of window) as the
"Find". I also notice that you should rather select the "Category"
and "Function" *before* selecting the "Shortcut keys".

So it should actually go like this (in Windows):
Click Tools > Customise...
Select the "Keyboard" tab
Select the "LibreOffice" radio button (top-right of window)
In the "Category" pane select "Edit"
In the "Function" pane select "Find & Replace"
In the "Shortcut keys" pane, scroll to "Ctrl + F" and select it.
Then click "Modify"
In the "Keys" pane, select "Ctrl + Alt + F"
Click "Delete"
Close the window by clicking "Ok"

Regards
Stephan

#7

Correction:  After you've selected the "Keyboard" tab, make sure to
select the "LibreoOffice" radio button (top-right of window) as the
"Find".  I also notice that you should rather select the "Category"
and "Function" *before* selecting the "Shortcut keys".

So it should actually go like this (in Windows):
Click Tools > Customise...
Select the "Keyboard" tab
Select the "LibreOffice" radio button (top-right of window)
In the "Category" pane select "Edit"
In the "Function" pane select "Find & Replace"
In the "Shortcut keys" pane, scroll to "Ctrl + F" and select it.
Then click "Modify"

Excellent! Thanks!

In the "Keys" pane, select "Ctrl + Alt + F"
Click "Delete"

Nah, that's ok....

#8

In 3.4.1, the Edit|Find & Replace menu item shows "Ctrl + Alt + F".
However that doesn't work, _if_ you've already done Ctrl+F and have the
'Find' toolbar open, instead it only toggles the 'File' menu.

#9

When the cursor is in the find text field, hit Escape key to close the
find bar. Then ctrl+alt+F open the find dialog.

Best regards
JBF

#10

Are these shortcut key strokes written down some place for printout?

It would be nice to have a sheet with the clearly spelled out and grouped. I know several people who hate using the mouse to go to the menu/navigation bars to go to the needed dialogs.

#11

webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote:

Are these shortcut key strokes written down some place for printout?

It would be nice to have a sheet with the clearly spelled out and grouped.
 I know several people who hate using the mouse to go to the menu/navigation
bars to go to the needed dialogs.

I don't know if someone has compiled a list of short-cut keys. But
what you could do is to have a look at the assigned keys. If you open
the "customise" window (in Windows: "Tools" -> "Customise..." ->
"Keyboard" tab) you can see a list of all the short-cuts. It's not
really a user friendly list (if you're just browsing short-cut keys)
but I think it's pretty comprehensive. You may need to toggle between
the master "LibreOffice" and the individual "Writer", "Calc" etc.
components to see all of the short-cuts (there's a radio button,
top-right).

As far as I know, the short-cut commands are also shown next to the
commands in the menus. So, if you click on "File", it shows that the
short-cut for "Open" is "Ctrl+O". Something I really appreciate, I
must say.

Regards
Stephan