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Hello,
Is there a page somewhere that specifies what version(s) of Java are
supported for what versions of Libreoffice?
Specifically, is Java8 fully supported for version 4.1.x? 4.2.x? 4.3.x?
Thanks
Hi 
I think it's best to do without Java if at all possible. Since Oracle took
it over and put their own devs onto it Java appears to have been unstable
and vulnerable. Some of their security patches and upgrades have been so
full of holes that there have been known exploits "out in the wild" even
before their release date that they had to shelve them.
LibreOffice has worked hard to remove any dependence on Java but there are
still a few incredibly rare things that still need it. Accessibility
support is moving off Java. The inbuilt back-end for Base is migrating to
Firebird
It might be possible to use;
Tools - Options - Advanced
to switch off java. Hopefully no data-loss occurs and it just grumbles
when something does need Java. If you do get such an error message then it
should be reasonably easy to switch java back on and re-try the task.
Good luck!
Regards from
Tom
I really hate it when people try to tell me something 'for my own good'.
Tom - I asked a very specific question. I didn't ask whether or not I
should be using Java.
No, it should be very easy to answer - for someone who knows.
Obviously you don't, so why not just stop talking and wait for someone
who does?
Hi
Sorry! I was trying to say that it might be difficult to get an answer.
Java updates are too frequent and unreliable so tracking them would be
tricky. Oracle are not particularly open and talkative about their
problems. In the past they have been quite hostile towards LibreOffice.
There is an "openJDK" project. It's also owned by Oracle but has had quite
a big community to iron-out some of the problems that mainstream Java has
Regards from
Tom
Tanstaafl wrote
Is there a page somewhere that specifies what version(s) of Java are
supported for what versions of Libreoffice?
No. But it probably belongs in the Wiki.
Last substantive issues were when Oracle released Java 7 requiring new
vendor and minVersion strings. See fdo#39659 comment 37
<https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=39659#c37> . Another was
Windows specific with transition from VS2008 to VS2010-- fdo#50584
<https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=50584> .
Nothing like that for JRE 8 or the move to VS2012 for builds.
Specifically, is Java8 fully supported for version 4.1.x? 4.2.x? 4.3.x?
Yes, so far as has been reported. The LibreOffice Java bytecode generated
remains at target 1.5 (major code 49), JRE 8 handles that without issues.
Stuart
As long as this discussion has taken a snarky turn, let's note that
"fully supported" does not mean it will work in situ, lol. In fact, my
experience has been that almost all the java issues I have experienced
on OSX would not have resulted in any indication that LO was not "fully
supported" with that version of java
The model employed by WordPress with respect to plugins offers an
interesting perspective, in that it encourages users to indicate whether
they have encountered issues. The issues may rest on complex
interactions (such as the abort experienced when LO immediately sources
a problematic source for Java), or upon circumstances that avoided QA
(for whatever reasons) and perhaps are in some respects more informative
from the stand point of the average user than a certification (of
dubious value anyway.)
And, of course, the complexities of addressing multiple OS through
different methods could require an extensive matrix (as the vagaries of
the impact of the bitness, location, and viability of java on OSX have
demonstrated.)
Lastly, I want to note that just because one person poses a question,
does not mean a list response is intended for that person alone. Nor
should I assume that those responding have a clear picture of what I am
asking for and why I am asking for it, all of which can help formulate
answers. Yes, it is often frustrating when you ask about issue a and
you get a discursive discussion of issue b, but that is, at least to
date, the nature of humanity - waxing buff may pump your hormones, but
it won't help the person looking for a discussion of issue b
There is no version of Java that can be recommended as a "universal" or
"general" answer. Which version to use literally depends upon:
* Extensions;
* Third party software that interfaces with LibO;
* Platform;
* Internal components of LibO;
that you use.
Couple that with zero day exploits of Java in the wild, before the
official release of the version of Java that is targeted, and the only
safe advice is to not use Java, unless it is on an air gapped system.
FWIW, even though A11Y requires Java, at least one screen reader works
better without Java installed, than with Java installed.
jonathon
In data giovedì 30 ottobre 2014 07:18:49, Tanstaafl ha scritto:
Hello,
Is there a page somewhere that specifies what version(s) of Java are
supported for what versions of Libreoffice?Specifically, is Java8 fully supported for version 4.1.x? 4.2.x? 4.3.x?
Hi,
I'm using Java v. 7, and it seems to work correctly, both in Linux and Win
Ciao
Any of the latest Java 6, 7 or 8 should work equally well with LibreOffice.
The bitness of the _office_suite_ is the only limiting factor.
All LibreOffice versions for Windows are 32 bit, so you need a 32 bit Java
even on a 64 bit system.
LibreOffice for the Mac comes with 32 or 64 bitness. So it has to be 32 or
64 bit of Java respectively.
Under Linux you don't care. Everything is bundled by the maintainers.
There is nothing wrong with installing as many Java versions as needed for
all your software to run.
All security issues of the past years were related to browser apps and their
sand boxes.
And Tom is a phony idiot who knows nothing.
All security issues of the past years were related to browser apps
and their sand boxes.
Somehow, I doubt the truth of that statement, and from what I have seen
on this list, I believe that others also think there is more to the
story than just bad browsers, however, even if it is true in full...
And Tom is a phony idiot who knows nothing.
I hope that you personally know Tom very well, and know that he is ok
with you calling him such, otherwise I think you should consider your
words more carefully. This list is a user-oriented place meant to be
friendly and encouraging to new and old users alike, and Tom has done a
lot of good on this list; I don't feel he deserves that sort of
slander, even if he happens to be misguided in this instance (which I
am not yet convinced he is).
Paul
+1
In my experience on this list, Tom has been extremely helpful and, just as important, courteous.
Virgil
No +100.
Tom is a great help to many (including me) and should not be slandered for this!!
Hi,
To make it easy...
We support every java Version Oracle supports in the same flavor as LibreOffice
[Non Tech Answer]
If you have a 32 bit LibO you need a 32 bit java, same with 64 bits.
Oracle Supports (for free) Java 7 and 8 (I guess), so currently Java 1.7+ (Java 7 == 1.7).
If there is a Bug in java, LibreOffice will suffer from it, but well, we cannot do anything against it....
Hope that helped
I agree for the most part, and he is always polite and cordial.
I just really hate it when someone deigns to try to 'help' me as if I'm
a child, rather than just answer a simple question.
The fact is, Libreoffice, for a long time, simply did not work at all
with Java7.
So, I figured I'd ask if Java8 was supported - meaning, expected to work
properly in most cases...
Sheesh...
You are the one to check this out. We don't even know your operating system.
Please STOP it.
If Libreoffice requires Java to do certain things (yes, I understand
that iits reliance on Java is less and less as time goes on, but it
still requires it for some things), then it is on LIBREOFFICE to provide
information what version(s) of Java it supports, and for what platforms.
THAT IS WHAT I ASKED FOR.
SHEESH.
Hi Andreas
GSM
>> In my experience on this list, Tom has been extremely helpful and, just
>> as important, courteous.
>
> I agree for the most part, and he is always polite and cordial.
>
> I just really hate it when someone deigns to try to 'help' me as if I'm
> a child, rather than just answer a simple question.
>
> The fact is, Libreoffice, for a long time, simply did not work at all
> with Java7.
>
> So, I figured I'd ask if Java8 was supported - meaning, expected to work
> properly in most cases...
>
> Sheesh...
>You are the one to check this out. We don't even know your operating
system.
This is your second not constructive comment on this thread. We really
don't need them. We only need people able to help and respect each others.
If you have problems with some persons here, please move to another list or
to the Ask forum. Thanks.
Sophie
So, I figured I'd ask if Java8 was supported - meaning, expected to work
properly in most cases...You are the one to check this out. We don't even know your operating system.
Please STOP it.
If Libreoffice requires Java to do certain things (yes, I understand
that iits reliance on Java is less and less as time goes on, but it
still requires it for some things), then it is on LIBREOFFICE to provide
information what version(s) of Java it supports, and for what platforms.THAT IS WHAT I ASKED FOR.
SHEESH.
And you got valid answers from me and from Florian for all operating
systems (since you don't tell us yours).
The fact is, Libreoffice, for a long time, simply did not work at all
with Java7.
Huh? Really? Which issue number was that? I can't believe that any LO
version had been released with such a show stopper issue.
The only issue I am aware of is that Windows users could not use any
Java features because they pointed their 32 bit office suite to 64 bit
Java runtimes. The issue was that the option dialog did not hide
inadequate runtime versions.
My LO 3.5 (64 bit, shipped with Ubuntu 12.4) works with any 64 bit Java
I throw at it, including the latest Java 8.25, 6.33 shipped with Ubuntu
12.4 and 7.65.
At least I can start the document wizards, Base forms, Base wizards and
the report builder extension, configure another JRE, restart the office
and start again document wizards, Base forms, Base wizards and report
builder.
Hi Andreas
GSM
In my experience on this list, Tom has been extremely helpful and, just
as important, courteous.I agree for the most part, and he is always polite and cordial.
I just really hate it when someone deigns to try to 'help' me as if I'm
a child, rather than just answer a simple question.The fact is, Libreoffice, for a long time, simply did not work at all
with Java7.So, I figured I'd ask if Java8 was supported - meaning, expected to work
properly in most cases...Sheesh...
No, that was:
THAT IS WHAT I ASKED FOR.
SHEESH.
See the difference?