Redirection of translated wiki pages

l10n
#1

It was proposed that wiki links to untranslated pages in the form of Path/To/MyPage{{#translation:}} should redirect to the translation interface. I created a feature request for it: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T263011

As can be seen from the discussion, we have the option to use links in the form of Special:MyLanguage/Path/To/MyPage

This creates a situation where:

- you have to change your wiki UI language to match the translated pages you want to visit via these links
- if the translation does not exist, you will be redirected to the English page
- if you want to visit a specific translated page while using a different UI language, you have to manually edit the URL in your browser's address bar after accessing it
- there are no red links

Now, what is the general opinion? Should we switch to using Special:MyLanguage for all links that refer to translatable pages?

Ilmari

#2

Hi Ilmari,

thanks for taking care of that request in our Telegram group.

Now, what is the general opinion? Should we switch to using
Special:MyLanguage for all links that refer to translatable pages?

If I remember correctly, then Special:MyLanguage only works useful when
logged in. Our wiki is by default (logged out) in German. So most
readers will be directed to the German content although that might not
be useful.

But even if we would use English as default language: If you are reading
Russian FAQ pages and click on a link as just a simple reader (no
contributor), then you expect getting to a Russian page and not to a
German/English one.

I'm oppose to that change.

@Floeff: If I remember correctly that decision was made because of
having a German foundation. Most services do use English as default
interface language. Is there a chance that we switch the wiki also to
English?

Best regards,

Dennis Roczek

#3

Dennis Roczek kirjoitti 16.9.2020 klo 18.07:

Hi Ilmari,

thanks for taking care of that request in our Telegram group.

Now, what is the general opinion? Should we switch to using
Special:MyLanguage for all links that refer to translatable pages?

If I remember correctly, then Special:MyLanguage only works useful when
logged in. Our wiki is by default (logged out) in German. So most
readers will be directed to the German content although that might not
be useful.

But even if we would use English as default language: If you are reading
Russian FAQ pages and click on a link as just a simple reader (no
contributor), then you expect getting to a Russian page and not to a
German/English one.

I'm oppose to that change.

@Floeff: If I remember correctly that decision was made because of
having a German foundation. Most services do use English as default
interface language. Is there a chance that we switch the wiki also to
English?

I'm not sure I understand. TDF wiki is definitely not in German while logged out.

Anyway, you can test the difference on this page: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Faq/Base
The first listed item uses Special:MyLanguage while the others use {{#translation:}}

Ilmari