Too much importance for a debunkering guy.<br><br>With no suggestions and/or examples, this post is totally useless. <br><br>Valter<br>Open Source is better!<br>Sent from my Android device<div class="quote" style="line-height: 1.5"><br><br>-------- Messaggio originale --------<br>Oggetto: Re: [libreoffice-users] CONGRATULATIONS!!1!<br>Da: anne-ology <laginnis@gmail.com><br>A: users@global.libreoffice.org<br>CC: <br><br><br type="attribution"><blockquote class="quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> very interesting indeed.<br><br> When I saw that message, I thought it was another of these<br>advertisements for something; so merely deleted it -<br> now, I still am thinking that although I commend both of you for<br>responding with an attempt to help this 'PhD candidate' who seemed to<br>forget to state what his actual problem(s) is/are.<br><br> BTW this reminds me of the time I was asked to read some PhD theses<br>- many were so lacking in proper grammar &/or logical thinking that I<br>merely wrote 'muddled thinking' on the paper; the professor told me that<br>was what he'd been thinking but was afraid to act before getting a second<br>opinion ;-)<br><br><br><br>From: Tom Davies <tomcecf@gmail.com><br>Date: Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 12:56 PM<br>Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] CONGRATULATIONS!!1!<br>To: Cley Faye <cleyfaye@gmail.com><br>Cc: "users@global.libreoffice.org" <users@global.libreoffice.org><br><br><br>Hi :)<br>Looks like someone just having a "bad hair day" (or week or something).<br><br>Inevitably LibreOffice does have imperfections, just as all other<br>software, and everything else does too. In some cases they can be<br>over-come quite easily by switching from the default "Fresh" to the<br>more mature "Still" branch - or vice-versa. In Linux-land we often<br>have choices such as using the tweaked versions in our distro's repos<br>(through a package manager) or download from the official LibreOffice<br>website and install, or even get the source-code and "make" or "build"<br>if you are a purist and using Gentoo or Arch or Slackware or<br>something. So for most of us point&click users we have 2 or 3 easy<br>options.<br><br>I suspect that the major problem is that the default version of<br>LibreOffice is always the latest "Fresh", unlike other OpenSource<br>projects that give the most solidly matured branch to noobs and then<br>leave it to geeks to find their way around to getting the "more<br>advanced" one.<br><br>Anyway, i too have been very happily using LibreOffice for over 5<br>years and everyone i meet who has used it (apart from one) has also<br>been very happy with it - or become happy once i help them switch to<br>the "Still" branch.<br><br>Regards from<br>Tom :)<br><br><br><br>On 19 November 2015 at 15:39, Cley Faye <cleyfaye@gmail.com> wrote:<br>> I usually don't reply to these kind of posts (I keep my rare contributions<br>> in trying to help others...) but there's something to say here.<br>><br>> You forgot to say exactly what's wrong. You didn't even allude to it. Your<br>> whole message can be summed up by "Useless". From the tone of it I guess<br>> that you don't want at all to be constructive, but maybe I'm mistaken; in<br>> that case please tell us what issues, precisely or in general, you have,<br>> and most likely people here (maybe me too) will try to help you out.<br>> For the record, right now, I'm using LibreOffice on my office computer<br>> running Debian without issues, and I'm fairly certain that a lot of people<br>> out there are too, so your "make the software practically useless"<br>> statement is rude, and borderline offensive to the people that work both<br>> with and on LibreOffice.<br>><br>> The purpose of this list is to provide help to users, and it's working as<br>> fine as LibreOffice itself. It is not here so you can vent out and just<br>> drop random, non-constructive nonsense.<br>><br>> Sorry for the noise,<br>><br>> Cley Faye<br>> http://cleyfaye.net<br>><br>> 2015-11-19 15:21 GMT+01:00 O'Shea Keiron <keiron.oshea@gmail.com>:<br>><br>>> Hello everyone,<br>>><br>>> I am by no means a negative person, so can I just congratulate you all<br>>> on your recent achievements in making LibreOffice completely and<br>>> utterly unusable on the Linux platform!!<br>>><br>>> It is said by many in the FOSS community that the 'one' thing (of<br>>> many) holding Linux back as an actual usable OS is that it lacks a<br>>> comprehensive office suite.<br>>><br>>> LO and OO promised to solve this issue. A unified office suite, with<br>>> the ease of use and format compatibility of MS Office.<br>>><br>>> Instead, we're seeing the software package regress.<br>>><br>>> It's all well and good chuffing yourselves up about code clean ups,<br>>> but if these clean ups make the software practically useless for the<br>>> end user - then you might as well throw the towel in.<br>>><br>>> Working software first.<br>>><br>>> Regards,<br>>><br>>> Keiron O'Shea 毛毛<br>>><br>>> Aberystwyth University<br>>> PhD Student, IBERS<br>>> keo7@aber.ac.uk || KeironTeilo.OShea@Kaust.edu.sa ||<br>>> http://users.aber.ac.uk/keo7<br>>><br><br>-- <br>To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscribe@global.libreoffice.org<br>Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/<br>Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette<br>List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/<br>All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted<br></blockquote></div>