Send document from LO 3.3.1 on OSX seems to produce no response

users
#1

On OSX having installed 3.3.1 choosing Send Document or other send
options produces no response and no log entries. Thunderbird was
selected from Internet options.

#2

Hi Marc,

On OSX having installed 3.3.1 choosing Send Document or other send
options produces no response and no log entries. Thunderbird was
selected from Internet options.

Yes, this doesn't quite work as intended...or at least, not as its
alleged to work on other platforms. From what I understand, you can not
simply point to the TB application bundle in your list of applications,
but have to drill down through the bundle's contents to point to the
thunderbird executable binary.

You also have to make sure when you want to send the document via e-mail
that TB is not already running, otherwise you will get an error message,
and nothing will happen.

Alex

#3

I think the integration of the NeoOffice team, with its know how, native interface library use, ... in the MacOS X Libò team is as urgent as useful.

With big advantages on both sides: NeoOffice works and releases, "in nomine" LibreOffice, a functional updated (!) office suite, LibreOffice Community has a MacOS X team with a big quality experience, as well as just I said above.

Have a nice day,
   Carlo

#4

Hi Marc,

On OSX having installed 3.3.1 choosing Send Document or other send
options produces no response and no log entries. Thunderbird was
selected from Internet options.

Yes, this doesn't quite work as intended...or at least, not as its
alleged to work on other platforms. From what I understand, you can not
simply point to the TB application bundle in your list of applications,
but have to drill down through the bundle's contents to point to the
thunderbird executable binary.

If TB on OSX (unix) is like linux, you'd do the full path the the
thunderbird shell file rather than the thunderbird-bin.

You also have to make sure when you want to send the document via e-mail
that TB is not already running, otherwise you will get an error message,
and nothing will happen.

Should work (I think - I do not have OSX) if you use the shell file
rather than the bin. If not, you might try '-compose':

/<path to thunderbird shell file>/thunderbird -compose

#5

Hi Marc,

On OSX having installed 3.3.1 choosing Send Document or other send
options produces no response and no log entries. Thunderbird was
selected from Internet options.

Yes, this doesn't quite work as intended...or at least, not as its
alleged to work on other platforms. From what I understand, you can not
simply point to the TB application bundle in your list of applications,
but have to drill down through the bundle's contents to point to the
thunderbird executable binary.

You also have to make sure when you want to send the document via e-mail
that TB is not already running, otherwise you will get an error message,
and nothing will happen.

Alex

@Alex,

I just determined that Acrobat has the same issue.

The SendMail doesn't know how to talk to your default mail client.
Please select a different mail application to use.

Adobe points the finger at Mozilla, and mozilla reciprocates. Moreover,
setting thunderbird as your default mail client on OSX from MacMail will
NOT result in TBird being regarded as the default mail client by some
applications, lol.

There may in fact be a command line option for invoking a Tbird envelope
from inside the package without invoking a new instance of Tbird - seems
to me I had to address something like that on aix quite a few years ago.
Unfortunately I tried
/Applications/Thunderbird.app/Contents/MacOS/thunderbird-bin -silent
-compose
and that did not work (resulted in the behavior you mention) and adding
quotes results in LO not being able to find an e-mail app.

Went back to look at my ancient version of NeoOffice and that won't even
start now....

Marc

#6

@NoOp
Nope, tried all those variations - two real options; a) you invoke the
package which results in TBird coming forward, but no envelope, or b)
you invoke the binary, in which case you get an error message no matter
the flags indicatin that there is already a copy running. OSX does not
have a shell file I believe (at least not a thunderbird.sh like unix.)

#7

There is a long standing bug report on this for Thunderbird. It is now marked as "Resolved Fixed" but doesn't seem to be integrated into current version of Thunderbird. (or not actually fixed) See:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=287345

Larry

#8

@Larry

OK - I posted a comment on that bug and referenced the similar POWERPC
bug that was mentioned there as well as the current issue with acrobat

It seems like they marked it resolved because the underlying open -a
command worked, but as noted by others in October of last year, this
does not always work, and I could get an envelope to come up in some
cases from the command line, but never with an attachment.... I don;t
know whether this is a matter of passing the correct location or
something else, but it is clearly a continuing problem that effects a
broad range of software.

#9

________________________________
From: Larry Gusaas <larry.gusaas@gmail.com>
To: users@libreoffice.org
Sent: Mon, 28 February, 2011 20:13:40
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Send document from LO 3.3.1 on OSX seems to
produce no response

On 2011/02/28 12:47 PM Marc Grober wrote:

Nope, tried all those variations - two real options; a) you invoke the
package which results in TBird coming forward, but no envelope, or b)
you invoke the binary, in which case you get an error message no matter
the flags indicatin that there is already a copy running. OSX does not
have a shell file I believe (at least not a thunderbird.sh like unix.)

There is a long standing bug report on this for Thunderbird. It is now marked as
"Resolved Fixed" but doesn't seem to be integrated into current version of
Thunderbird. (or not actually fixed) See:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=287345

Larry

Hi :slight_smile:
It looks as though there are still 2 more steps.
1. The fix/patch needs to be beta tested or QA have to "Verify" it. There might
be a way for you to be one of the beta testers but i don't know how.
2. The fix/patch needs to be released.

Regards from
Tom :slight_smile:

#10

Hi Marc,

There may in fact be a command line option for invoking a Tbird envelope
from inside the package without invoking a new instance of Tbird - seems
to me I had to address something like that on aix quite a few years ago.
Unfortunately I tried
/Applications/Thunderbird.app/Contents/MacOS/thunderbird-bin -silent
-compose
and that did not work (resulted in the behavior you mention) and adding
quotes results in LO not being able to find an e-mail app.

Yes, I couldn't get it to work with any of the CLI parameters, so gave
up. I now see from Larry's response that this is a longstanding issue
with TB. Oh well. I personally, don't use send as e-mail much, but I can
imagine one or two use cases where it would be really handy for me.

Alex

#11

The address listed for QA for that bug bounces & the assignee is on
vacation til next week. The patch that was developed is not targeted
until TB 3.3 and it was a bit unclear from the discussion as to what
version of the patch they finally decided upon and whether the patched
fully resolved the issues (as there were a couple of folk who indicated
that it did NOT resolve all their problems.) However, the target for
this patch was 3.3a1 and cut off for 3.3.a2 is come and gone.....

#12

Please fix your quote attribution. Everything I previously wrote appears to be attributed to you. If I hadn't included my name in my previous post it would be easy to assume you wrote it.

Larry

#13

If you have been following this list for a few weeks, you might
realize that this plea falls on deaf ears. Yahoo email screwed up
their quoting mechanism beyond all hope, and some people cling to
using Yahoo email beyond all reason.

#14

If you have been following this list for a few weeks, you might
realize that this plea falls on deaf ears.

One can always hope.

   Yahoo email screwed up
their quoting mechanism beyond all hope, and some people cling to
using Yahoo email beyond all reason.

And I posted how to set up Yahoo Mail so it quotes properly. It is better to use a real email client though. Or switch to gmail. Or both.

Larry

#15

:

Yahoo email screwed up
their quoting mechanism beyond all hope, and some people cling to
using Yahoo email beyond all reason.

And I posted how to set up Yahoo Mail so it quotes properly. It is better to
use a real email client though. Or switch to gmail. Or both.

I tried playing with that in the "new" yahoo email with an id I rarely
use, and it was a hopeless mess - the only kind of quoting I could get
it to do is the same as what Tom uses - blecch!

Real email client - yeah. Gmail - double yeah!

#16

I tried playing with that in the "new" yahoo email with an id I rarely
use, and it was a hopeless mess - the only kind of quoting I could get
it to do is the same as what Tom uses - blecch!

Yes, but as was explained in that thread, you must switch to the
'Classic' interface to get quoting working properly...

Real email client - yeah. Gmail - double yeah!

GMail - barf...

#17

I tried playing with that in the "new" yahoo email with an id I rarely
use, and it was a hopeless mess - the only kind of quoting I could get
it to do is the same as what Tom uses - blecch!

Yes, but as was explained in that thread, you must switch to the
'Classic' interface to get quoting working properly...

Gee, Charles, that's a lot of work!

Real email client - yeah.  Gmail - double yeah!

GMail - barf...

To each his own.