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Please, can you correct your spell checking program: UK English does NOT
spell "defensive" and "offensive" with a "c" in place of the "s".
Hi Allen,
Allen Myers schrieb:
Please, can you correct your spell checking program: UK English does NOT
spell "defensive" and "offensive" with a "c" in place of the "s".
I do not understand you. "offencive" and "defencive" are both marked as error here. Where do you see a problen?
Kind regards
Regina
Hi Allen,
Allen Myers schrieb:
Please, can you correct your spell checking program: UK English does NOT
spell "defensive" and "offensive" with a "c" in place of the "s".
Do you have installed an "en-UK" dictionary? If you right-click in the 'language' field on the status bar > Set Language for Paragraph > More. Scroll down to 'en-UK' in 'Language' field. If there is no 'ABC'-marker, then no dictionary is installed.
Kind regards
Regina
See if this British [en-UK] English dictionary works for you. It may be what you are looking for, or not. But it does have over 638,000 words. The original "master list" claimed to be British English, and not Oxford English.
I use your Canadian English 638K dictionary and it has the incorrect spelling "defencive" and "offencive".
The correct spelling is "defensive" and "offensive" in Canadian, UK, and US English.
I disabled your dictionary in LibreOffice. The standard English dictionary included with LO has the correct spelling for "defensive" and "offensive" in Canadian, UK, and US English.
Well I will check it out.
The master list is not mine, but was gathered from several sources. I was told that the lists were 99.999% correct, since there cannot be a 100% in anything.
Will get back to you.
it is 3:18 pm local time
If you wait till 3:25 local time
my corrected Canadian and British .dic files will be uploaded for the following dictionaries.
Right now my uploading speeds are at 1/4 my normal speeds do to a major bandwidth issue.
I will look at the other lists later.
BUT
please if you let me know there is a bad spelling word, i.e. it tells you a word is spelled correctly when it is not, let me know which of my KPP dictionaries has the problem. I will try to get it fixed as quickly as I have time for.
As I stated before, the master word lists were 99.999% correct, but no word list can be 100%.
2 out of 638,000 words not spelled correctly is a good percentage.
Hi 
It's a bit weird because in English (UK) defence is right but defense is not. Of course nothing can be 100% right all the time.
Regards from
Tom
Take a look at some of the things that are being discussed as changes for Oxford English.
Maybe some of the "weirdness" was from that type of source.
Spelling of "common" words change as the language changes. Look at the different versions of French and German listed on the dictionary lists. Look at the fact that there are over 20 localized Spanish versions.
The English language came from adding words from other languages and cultures. As we more more into the second decade of the 21st century, more and more words are added to English then ever before. I remember doing a dictionary project in a college environment for an Asian company where the spelling dictionary had about 178,000 words. Now the word lists are over 600,000 words. I have looked into "rare spellings" of words that would place the word list over 1,000,000 spelling words. If you buy the largest dictionary, it is in multiple volume set, of the last time I looked for such a thing.
So, who knows, the "offencive" spelling may be correct to some new standard. Or, it could have been just some "weird" error by the creators of the different master word lists that my .dic file were developed from. Actually, I still have to add several hundred words that I found that is currently missing from my 638K lists.
Awesome! Great you were able to make the corrections and push them out so quickly.
Have a look wikipediea for the differences between UK and US English.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_and_British_English_spelling_differences
For example:
*-ce, -se*
For advice / advise and device / devise, American English and British English both keep the
noun/verb distinction (where the pronunciation is -[s] for the noun and -[z] for the verb).
For licence / license or practice / practise, British English also keeps the noun/verb
distinction (the two words in each pair are homophones with -[s] pronunciation, though). On
the other hand, American English uses license and practice for both nouns and verbs (with
-[s] pronunciation in both cases too).
American English has kept the Anglo-French spelling for defense and offense, which are
usually defence and offence in British English. Likewise, there are the American pretense
and British pretence; but derivatives such as defensive, offensive, and pretension are
always thus spelt in both systems.
Australian[28] and Canadian usage generally follows British.
So I took out the offence spelling when it was correct.
Maybe I should but it back in.
Definitely.
Ah, the vagaries of the English language with different spellings and usages in different countries. Here in Canada we use mainly UK spellings although some are US e.g. tire instead of tyre.
For usage we use trunk instead of the UK boot, and hood instead of the UK bonnet. Plus a lot of words of Quebecois French origin (tuque).
Thanks for the work on the dictionaries. I appreciate having a larger word list.
PS: They work in Apache OpenOffice as well as LibreOffice.
Hi
Good move. It's a quick&easy way to fix the problem although you might want to switch it back on again now the 2 words have been dealt with. The standard dictionaries that come with LO occasionally cause other problems which Tim has fixed for his dictionaries. His seem to be quite a lot larger too.
I was impressed with how fast the 2 words were dealt with too.
Regards from
Tom
+1
Where did you get this dictionary from?
Looking at the en_GB.dic file provided by LO 3.5 I see:
defence/52 1
defenceless/73 1
defend/10 1
defendant/2 1
defender/2 1
defenestrate/6 1
defenestration/2 1
defensibility/5 1
defensible/17 1
defensive/73 1 <==== no 'c' there
offence/9 1
offend/10 1
offended 1
offender/2 1
offensive/45 1 <==== no 'c' there either
en_US.dic shows the same:
defensive/239 1
offensive/36 1
So again, where did you get your dictionary from? Have you added an
additional dictionary?
For some reason, I am somewhat wary of those:
http://libreoffice-na.us/English-3.5-installs/kpp-dictionaries.html
"The following are the word list sizes that will be available for the
different English languages that are part of the diffeerent "kpp"
English language sets:"
That, and the fact that no license (licence) nor attribution to the
original .dic and/or .aff etc., author(s) is provided.
Hi
If you do try using them then you might realise how good they are. If you don't try them then you can only make guesses.
From what i have seen on these lists we have had a lot of problems with the default dictionaries but only 1 with the ones on the NA site and that 1 was fixed within hours (possibly minutes) of being reported
Regards from
Tom
Hi
are. If you don't try them then you can only make guesses.From what i have seen on these lists we have had a lot of problems
with the default dictionaries but only 1 with the ones on the NA
site and that 1 was fixed within hours (possibly minutes) of being
reported
Really? Have you actually looked at the .dic file?
<http://libreoffice-na.us/English-3.5-installs/add-on-dictionaries-large-list/kpp-british-english-dictionary-638k-word-list.oxt>
[downloaded this morning]
defence
defence's
defenceable
defenced
defenceless
defencelessly
defencelessness
defencelessness's
defencelessnesses
defenceman
defenceman's
defencemen
defences
defencing
defencive <==== looks like a 'c' to me
and searching on 'defens':
defensative
defensatives
defenser
defensibilities
defensibility
defensibility's
defensible
defensibleness
defensibleness's
defensiblenesses
defensibly
defensin
defensins
defension
defensively
defensiveness
defensiveness's
defensivenesses
defensives
defensor
defensorship
defensory
No 'defensive' there.
Now let's have a look at 'offen':
offence
offence's
offenceful
offenceless
offencelessly
offences
offencive <==== woops, looks like a 'c' to me.
offenseful
offenselessness
offenseproof
offensible
offension
offensively
offensiveness
offensiveness's
offensivenesses
offensives
Nope. No 'offensive' there.
No offence, but it doesn't appear "fixed" to me.
Regards from Tom
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