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Hi :slight_smile:
It feels like a lot of the sponsors and supporters of TDF (or anything
else for that matter) do a lot of work at such a high level or so far
outside of the immediate organisation that very few people inside the
organisation really realise they are involved at all.

On these LibreOffice mailing lists we see people with FSF email
addresses actively helping along the same lines as everyone else here.

On a side-issue, it often makes sense for the people who make a thing
to be the promoters of it. Since ODF Alliance seems pretty much dead
now then maybe OASIS could take on that functionality? OASIS are
already an established neutral 3rd party and even though MS are a
member they are only 1 member amongst 5,000. On the other hand i am
really beginning to like the idea of just carrying on doing a bit of
ODF promotion from within the various companies that use it.

Regards from
Tom :slight_smile:

Hi :slight_smile:
It feels like a lot of the sponsors and supporters of TDF (or anything
else for that matter) do a lot of work at such a high level or so far
outside of the immediate organisation that very few people inside the
organisation really realise they are involved at all.

Well... I think the awareness is there. We talk to the FSF, we are at
the OASIS, we are part of OSI, etc.

On these LibreOffice mailing lists we see people with FSF email
addresses actively helping along the same lines as everyone else here.

Who? - seriously, I'd be interested to know if the FSF is here
helping users or otherwise contributing: it's rather far-fetched from
their work.

On a side-issue, it often makes sense for the people who make a thing
to be the promoters of it. Since ODF Alliance seems pretty much dead
now then maybe OASIS could take on that functionality? OASIS are
already an established neutral 3rd party and even though MS are a
member they are only 1 member amongst 5,000. On the other hand i am
really beginning to like the idea of just carrying on doing a bit of
ODF promotion from within the various companies that use it.

Yes indeed. The OASIS only produces/develops ODF. There was an ODF
adoption TC that attempted to coordinate promotion activities on ODF
but it folded one year ago or less, and that's not coming back I'm
afraid.

Best,

Charles.

Hi :slight_smile:
Errr, i didn't mean to "drop anyone in it" or snitch or anything. We
see people from other supporter organisations too, such as people with
Redhat addresses or SuSE ones. I'm fairly sure i've even seen posts
from people with a Canonical address. The point was that it feels
more like they really are supporters if they are directly involved in
the day-to-day.

If there is no neutral 3rd party organisation actively promoting ODF
then it falls to each individual or each individual company to do a
bit and i think that is kinda working. Perhaps not quite as well as
some would like but it's still improving on the position 3-4 years
ago. People seem less shocked when they get a format they are
unfamiliar with.
Regards from
Tom :slight_smile:

Tom,

I'm not asking you to snitch, all this is public record. I just believe
that no one from the FSF is contributing to LibreOffice under this
specific affiliation, but I may be wrong.

As for Red Hat, Canonical et al: they're officially involved in the
development of LibreOffice and are sponsors as well.

Best,

Charles.

Hi.
A search of the list for sender fsf.org will give you a hit.
Steve

Heh... good catch Steve :slight_smile:

Best,

Charles.