[steering-discuss] libreoffice.org e-mail accounts

l10n
#1

Hi all,

I know that you're very busy with all kind of translations and community task but I would like you to read the mail below and give your opinion on your preferred choice and also, I would like you to be aware of the yesterday's SC meeting:
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/TDF/Steering_Committee_Meetings#Minutes_2011-01-13
As you can see André, Fridrich and me are going to established the Member Committee. Please, read the Community Bylaws, ask your questions, speak about them around you, it is our Community life, so it's important :slight_smile:
Thanks in advance
Kind regards
Sophie

#2

Well, I would say the only problem would be if the
documentfoundation.org domain was to be put
under the same conditions, which would lead to issues. However, the
libreoffice.org (also applies
to regional ones) domain should be available for every contributor in
the community. These can
however, as you point out, be different depending on the involvement.

-Olav.

#3

2011.01.14 19:14, sophie rašė:

Hello,

as discussed yesterday in the confcall, we're planning to give out
official LibreOffice e-mail accounts to people who are community members
per the membership committee's decision. (For information on the
membership committee, refer to yesterday's confcall as well. It will be
online as audio recording soon.)

My plan is to hand out only e-mail forwarders, not real mailboxes with
POP and IMAP, as the latter one requires lots of maintenance.

However, as we had lots of irritating issues with @openoffice.org e-mail
addresses, I would like to avoid these mistakes. It's evident that
@documentfoundation.org accounts are only for those who work for/with
TDF and are eligible to represent them in certain aspects, like the SC
or administrators.

agreed.

For LibreOffice, I'm a bit hesitant to hand out @libreoffice.org, as
this may seem like people are acting on behalf of TDF, causing liability
issues. Maybe I'm too touchy, so I'm happy for comments, which is why I
am writing this mail. :slight_smile:

My plan is actually to have something like

    volunteer.nickname@libreofficecommunity.org
or
    volunteer.nickname@libreofficemail.org
or
    volunteer.nickname@libreofficevolunteers.org

I'd like to avoid subdomains (@community.libreoffice.org), as they are
really ugly for e-mail accounts.

I think domains like libreofficecommunity.org are just as ugly.

I'd say it should be either libreoffice.org, or nothing. After all, it's nobody's obligation to offer email addresses to anyone, so why not just make up some rules (not necessarily formal) instead of being touchy?

Actually, I can't think of any other open-source project (except OpenOffice.org) that would offer email addresses to anyone, and I don't think it's necessary (as if we all didn't have a bunch of addresses already).

Rimas

#4

2011.01.14 19:14, sophie rašė:

Hello,

as discussed yesterday in the confcall, we're planning to give out
official LibreOffice e-mail accounts to people who are community members
per the membership committee's decision. (For information on the
membership committee, refer to yesterday's confcall as well. It will be
online as audio recording soon.)

My plan is to hand out only e-mail forwarders, not real mailboxes with
POP and IMAP, as the latter one requires lots of maintenance.

However, as we had lots of irritating issues with @openoffice.org e-mail
addresses, I would like to avoid these mistakes. It's evident that
@documentfoundation.org accounts are only for those who work for/with
TDF and are eligible to represent them in certain aspects, like the SC
or administrators.

agreed.

For LibreOffice, I'm a bit hesitant to hand out @libreoffice.org, as

this may seem like people are acting on behalf of TDF, causing liability
issues. Maybe I'm too touchy, so I'm happy for comments, which is why I
am writing this mail. :slight_smile:

My plan is actually to have something like

   volunteer.nickname@libreofficecommunity.org
or
   volunteer.nickname@libreofficemail.org
or
   volunteer.nickname@libreofficevolunteers.org

I'd like to avoid subdomains (@community.libreoffice.org), as they are
really ugly for e-mail accounts.

I think domains like libreofficecommunity.org are just as ugly.

I'd say it should be either libreoffice.org, or nothing. After all, it's
nobody's obligation to offer email addresses to anyone, so why not just make
up some rules (not necessarily formal) instead of being touchy?

+1
I first thought that maybe the Steering Committee and people in charge of
l10n/marketing/website/etc should get one, so things could be more official.
but... things would be more official, and it may discourage people to debate
after a response from a @libreoffice.org mail?

it's great to see the willingness to give @libreoffice.org addresses, but I
don't see the advantages; apart from the excitement of having
me@libreoffice.org, of course.
I may be wrong, and a @libreoffice.org reward is worth the effort?
I'll keep reading this. This will be interesting

Actually, I can't think of any other open-source project (except
OpenOffice.org) that would offer email addresses to anyone, and I don't
think it's necessary (as if we all didn't have a bunch of addresses
already).

+1

#5

2011.01.14 19:14, sophie rašė:

Hello,

Hello to you all,

   I'm new here. I've been a translator for lots of projects, but just
found out about the LibreOffice fork and i'm very happy to get away
from Oracle. Sorry to start with a "me too" response, but i don't know
how people get their voices heard otherwise around here yet.

My plan is to hand out only e-mail forwarders, not real mailboxes with
POP and IMAP, as the latter one requires lots of maintenance.

However, as we had lots of irritating issues with @openoffice.org e-mail
addresses, I would like to avoid these mistakes.

...

For LibreOffice, I'm a bit hesitant to hand out @libreoffice.org, as

this may seem like people are acting on behalf of TDF, causing liability
issues. Maybe I'm too touchy, so I'm happy for comments, which is why I
am writing this mail. :slight_smile:

...

I'd like to avoid subdomains (@community.libreoffice.org), as they are
really ugly for e-mail accounts.

I think domains like libreofficecommunity.org are just as ugly.

   I agree.

I'd say it should be either libreoffice.org, or nothing. After all, it's
nobody's obligation to offer email addresses to anyone, so why not just make
up some rules (not necessarily formal) instead of being touchy?

   It seems to me that if you give someone an address then you are
indeed giving them some authority to "speak for" the organization. Why
shouldn't people use their own addresses?

I first thought that maybe the Steering Committee and people in charge of
l10n/marketing/website/etc should get one, so things could be more official.
but... things would be more official, and it may discourage people to debate
after a response from a @libreoffice.org mail?

   If someone is discouraged by the return address of a member of the
Steering Committee then they will probably be discouraged to reply to
a Committee member no matter what their address.

it's great to see the willingness to give @libreoffice.org addresses, but I
don't see the advantages; apart from the excitement of having
me@libreoffice.org, of course.

   Yes. It would be "cool", but unnecessary.

I may be wrong, and a @libreoffice.org reward is worth the effort?

   I have many domains where i give out addresses. There is work
involved and i wonder if it's worth the effort administering the
addresses, rather than putting that into LibreOffice itself?

Actually, I can't think of any other open-source project (except
OpenOffice.org) that would offer email addresses to anyone, and I don't
think it's necessary (as if we all didn't have a bunch of addresses
already).

   Agreed.

   Thank you.