The download process ... again

Here I am, just having succumbed to the button flashing at me, telling me there's an update. Followed by a sigh because there's still no upgrade process. Nope, here I am downloading 202MB all over. Going through the whole rigmarole of installing again, making sure I choose Custom, not Standard and cursing for the nth time that it doesn't pick up on my personal data, no, it insists I'm called "Microsoft" ...

I realise it's only partly an l10n issue but last time I brought this up on the development list, if I remember rightly, I didn't exactly get a sensible answer. So, as a key part of this issue DOES impact on l10n (remember the number of *localizers* who comes to this list, baffled because they've installed their locale (or so they think) and all they get is English and because we're still saddled with this massive all-languages all-proofing tools file), I'll post the question here:

Has any progress been made on making the install less insane? l10n aside, I noticed that AOO has started in earnest so making LO as slick as possible is in everyone's interest I'd say.

Salude a trigu,

Michael

Hi,

Here I am, just having succumbed to the button flashing at me, telling me
there's an update. Followed by a sigh because there's still no upgrade
process. Nope, here I am downloading 202MB all over. Going through the whole
rigmarole of installing again, making sure I choose Custom, not Standard and
cursing for the nth time that it doesn't pick up on my personal data, no, it
insists I'm called "Microsoft" ...

When you do the upgrade, installer migrates the feature state of
previous install, so IMHO you don't have to choose Custom.

For the user data, there is a bug:
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46559

I realise it's only partly an l10n issue but last time I brought this up on
the development list, if I remember rightly, I didn't exactly get a sensible
answer. So, as a key part of this issue DOES impact on l10n (remember the
number of *localizers* who comes to this list, baffled because they've
installed their locale (or so they think) and all they get is English and
because we're still saddled with this massive all-languages all-proofing
tools file), I'll post the question here:

Has any progress been made on making the install less insane? l10n aside, I
noticed that AOO has started in earnest so making LO as slick as possible is
in everyone's interest I'd say.

I'm working on the Windows installer. I don't understand your comment
about AOO, they are using the same old OOo installer, they did not
improve on anything. BTW they support ~16 languages, while LibreOffice
supports ~100. We use multi language installers to save disk space on
mirrors and on build servers, and also to save network bandwidth. It
still takes a day to distribute all files to mirrors. So please don't
ask for single language installers.

Best regards,
Andras

10/05/2012 16:43, sgrìobh Andras Timar:

When you do the upgrade, installer migrates the feature state of previous install, so IMHO you don't have to choose Custom. For the user data, there is a bug: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46559

Aha, thanks. I'll try that next time and see what happens.

I'm working on the Windows installer. I don't understand your comment
about AOO, they are using the same old OOo installer, they did not
improve on anything.

I realise that but come some point in the future, they might...

BTW they support ~16 languages, while LibreOffice
supports ~100. We use multi language installers to save disk space on
mirrors and on build servers, and also to save network bandwidth. It
still takes a day to distribute all files to mirrors. So please don't
ask for single language installers.

I realise that (about the 16 vs 100), plus their l10n process sucks on various levels.

And I take it the second bit translates as "there are current technical reasons why we bundle it all into one" - or does that mean there were technical reasons at some point in history and it just hasn't been changed? I don't quite get that. AFAIK LO and Opera are the only applications which bundle all the languages. How is it that others manage to split them into more manageable chunks?

Michael