the release 4.3 in PPA launchpad

users
#1

Hi,
The setup from PPA is deemed more important in Ubuntu user community than
setup from *.deb files. A lot of people have already gotten used to setup
LibreOffice from PPA https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+archive/ubuntu/ppa .
But release 4.3 is not available over there up to now. This brings up the
question: Will new release be uploaded? And, when it can be expected?
As far as I know, Rico Tzschichholz is moderator of the PPA in launchpad.net.
Thank you.

#2

Hi :slight_smile:
I think it's reasonable to expect it to take at least a week. There are
not a huge number of people doing the job and those that are may have other
priorities.

It would be good to see more people join the team and maybe learn how to do
this = even though it might slow this one down it might help with future
releases. I suspect that it would be a really good "way in" and possibly
might be able to be done by someone with fairly low skill-level as a way of
feeling their way in further.

Regards from
Tom :slight_smile:

#3

OK - I might be able to do this if it's not too technical.....

#4

I had the PPA setup, but I removed it. I prefer to decide which version of LO it have installed. PPAs, like Repositories, seems to make me feel that I am not in control of which version I use. I kept getting the message that I need to update/upgrade to a different version with the PPAs and Repositories seem to, most of the time, remove the version I am using and install an earlier one.

Now that I am not upgrading my desktop from Linux Mint 16 to 17, due to a dependency issue that causes two printers not to produce the proper coloring when printing photos and image, I am not getting an updates anymore. So I do not have that problem.

For now, I would rather install the exact version of LO via the terminal than use a PPA. That is just my opinion. For many, it is more convenient for the PPAs to do the work for them. So, when I decide to go from 4.2.5 to 4.3.x, I will install it myself. I have not tested 4.3.0.x on any system. I prefer to test it out on a system that is not my "production" and default one till the version is tested on a Win7 and/or Ubuntu-based boot of my laptop.

#5

There is actually 1 person doing the job - it's Bjoern (who works for
Canonical). 4.3 ppa should be available relatively soon.

Best,
Joel

#6

> Hi,
> The setup from PPA is deemed more important in Ubuntu user community

than

> setup from *.deb files. A lot of people have already gotten used to setup
> LibreOffice from PPA
> https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+archive/ubuntu/ppa . But release 4.3
> is not available over there up to now. This brings up the question: Will
> new release be uploaded? And, when it can be expected? As far as I know,
> Rico Tzschichholz is moderator of the PPA in launchpad.net. Thank you.

I had the PPA setup, but I removed it. I prefer to decide which version
of LO it have installed. PPAs, like Repositories, seems to make me feel
that I am not in control of which version I use. I kept getting the
message that I need to update/upgrade to a different version with the
PPAs and Repositories seem to, most of the time, remove the version I am
using and install an earlier one.

Now that I am not upgrading my desktop from Linux Mint 16 to 17, due to
a dependency issue that causes two printers not to produce the proper
coloring when printing photos and image, I am not getting an updates
anymore. So I do not have that problem.

For now, I would rather install the exact version of LO via the terminal
than use a PPA. That is just my opinion. For many, it is more
convenient for the PPAs to do the work for them. So, when I decide to
go from 4.2.5 to 4.3.x, I will install it myself. I have not tested
4.3.0.x on any system. I prefer to test it out on a system that is not
my "production" and default one till the version is tested on a Win7
and/or Ubuntu-based boot of my laptop.

In my opinion, PPA gives more freedom to install and upgrade, and not only
makes installation easier in the system. This can be viewed in the direction
apt-get, aptitude and Sinaptic for Deb-based OS. There are excellent articles
on their use that enables having the maximum choice in their package system
management. However, this topic is not for this list, but for a discussion in
an user community of particular OS.

Meanwhile, LO 4.3 realise is in the PPA now
https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+archive/ubuntu/libreoffice-4-3

Thanks!

#7

> Hi,
> The setup from PPA is deemed more important in Ubuntu user community

than

> setup from *.deb files. A lot of people have already gotten used to setup
> LibreOffice from PPA
> https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+archive/ubuntu/ppa . But release 4.3
> is not available over there up to now. This brings up the question: Will
> new release be uploaded? And, when it can be expected? As far as I know,
> Rico Tzschichholz is moderator of the PPA in launchpad.net. Thank you.

I had the PPA setup, but I removed it. I prefer to decide which version
of LO it have installed. PPAs, like Repositories, seems to make me feel
that I am not in control of which version I use. I kept getting the
message that I need to update/upgrade to a different version with the
PPAs and Repositories seem to, most of the time, remove the version I am
using and install an earlier one.

Now that I am not upgrading my desktop from Linux Mint 16 to 17, due to
a dependency issue that causes two printers not to produce the proper
coloring when printing photos and image, I am not getting an updates
anymore. So I do not have that problem.

For now, I would rather install the exact version of LO via the terminal
than use a PPA. That is just my opinion. For many, it is more
convenient for the PPAs to do the work for them. So, when I decide to
go from 4.2.5 to 4.3.x, I will install it myself. I have not tested
4.3.0.x on any system. I prefer to test it out on a system that is not
my "production" and default one till the version is tested on a Win7
and/or Ubuntu-based boot of my laptop.

In my opinion, PPA gives more freedom to install and upgrade, and not only
makes installation easier in the system. This can be viewed in the direction
apt-get, aptitude and Sinaptic for Deb-based OS. There are excellent articles
on their use that enables having the maximum choice in their package system

Congrats to the "LibbreOffice Packaging" team... however the average
user on this list should *read* and understand the full contents of the
'PPA description' prior to adding to their sources.list. Examples:

<quote>
PPA description

LibreOffice test builds and backports
...
Most of the packages in this PPA have only experienced minor testing --
in fact it is the place to enable a wider audience to test packages
before they are published into the distro proper. In general, this PPA
is _not_ for the average user to install without a closer look (if it
would be, its packages would be in the main repositories). OTOH, it is
_way_ _better_ to use packages from this PPA than using the *.deb files
that The Document Foundation provides upstream, which are intentionally
build against a very old baseline for maximum compatibility. So, _if_
you want to be on the bleeding edge, do it here, not with upstream *.debs.
</quote>

Also be aware that if you are using Ubuntu 12.04.x (Precise) the PPA
contains a slew of additional packages which may, or may not, affect the
standard released versions of those packages on your existing system.

Sample:

accessodf 0.1-4ubuntu1~precise1 Rico Tzschichholz (2014-04-05)
boost1.54 1.54.0-2ubuntu3~precise1 Rico Tzschichholz (2014-02-01)
clucene-core 2.3.3.4-2~precise1 Rico Tzschichholz (2012-09-01)
dh-exec 0.12~precise1 Rico Tzschichholz (2014-02-01)
dh-python 1.20140128-1ubuntu8~ctools1 Scott Moser (3 hours ago)
doxygen 1.8.7-2~precise1 Rico Tzschichholz (3 hours ago)
glew 1.10.0-3~precise1 Rico Tzschichholz (3 hours ago)
graphite2 1.2.4-1ubuntu1~precise1 Rico Tzschichholz (2014-02-01)

Disclaimer: I've nothing against using the PPA - I have not as I install
the .deb packages directly from LO instead.

management. However, this topic is not for this list, but for a discussion in
an user community of particular OS.

You've brought up the question regarding the PPA here instead of asking at:

"For questions and bugs with software in this PPA please contact
LibreOffice Packaging."
<https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice>
  <https://answers.launchpad.net/~libreoffice>
Questions for LibreOffice Packaging
    “LibreOffice Packaging” team
    Questions

So I think it worthwhile to point out the PPA (Personal Package Archive)
'heads-up' here.

#8

Hi :slight_smile:
Thats an interesting list of add-ons/Extensions or additional packages. Is
there any easy clue as to what they do? I personally suspect they do add
something positive to LibreOffice and might consider adding them to my
upstream install of LO.
Regards from
Tom :slight_smile:

#9

accessodf 0.1-4ubuntu1~precise1 Rico Tzschichholz (2014-04-05)

Add-on to check accessibility compliance of ODF Writer documents (and
other formats supported by the file filters.

boost1.54 1.54.0-2ubuntu3~precise1 Rico Tzschichholz (2014-02-01)
clucene-core 2.3.3.4-2~precise1 Rico Tzschichholz (2012-09-01)

developer libraries that were updated to take into account or that were
required for changes in LO code to function

dh-exec 0.12~precise1 Rico Tzschichholz (2014-02-01)
dh-python 1.20140128-1ubuntu8~ctools1 Scott Moser (3 hours ago)

No idea what these two do.

doxygen 1.8.7-2~precise1 Rico Tzschichholz (3 hours ago)
Tool for creating documentation from code.

glew 1.10.0-3~precise1 Rico Tzschichholz (3 hours ago)
graphite2 1.2.4-1ubuntu1~precise1 Rico Tzschichholz (2014-02-01)

developer libraries that take care of openGL and coretext font rendering
AFAIK

Alex

#10

Hi :slight_smile:
Thanks. Ok so it mostly looks like stuff that i wouldn't notice whether
it's there or not but i can easily imagine some people would prefer to have
some or other of it.
Regards from
Tom :slight_smile: