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I just installed Ubuntu's 12.04 LTS, in the final beta version, on my laptop that had 11.10.
I looked at what LO it installed and it stated 3.5.1.2 - 350m1 [build 102].
I will be removing this version and use 3.4.6, but I had not seen any info about what Ubuntu 12.04 was going to have.
Thought someone here might want to know.
Hi,
I've been running Ubuntu 12.04 Beta 2 for about a week. It boots faster and shuts down faster than 11.10 did. I've had a few small quirks which are to be expected in a beta, but for a beta, I'm quite impressed. I normally don't bother with trying beta anything. I haven't had time to really work with HUD. My understanding is 12.04 will be shipping with LibreOffice 3.5.1. I never run the repository version of LibreOffice. I download The Document Foundation version, and am running 3.5.2. No issues yet.
Don
I currently use 10.04LTS and I use a dual-boot laptop to "test" out what the Ubuntu versions look like. When I see that the newest version works and I can tweak it enough to switch over to it, then I will upgrade my default 10.04LTS desktop to it. Right now running 12.04LTS Beta [April-12th download with the login of "GNOME Classic" seems to work better than 11.10's version. There is an issue on the very limited theme choices and their tweaking options. 10.04 has many, many more available. But if I have to live with what there is, then I will have to do so. I hate Unity with a real passion. I do not want my desktop to act like a tablet.
The LO included with the current Beta was 3.5.1.2, which it the "final version" of 3.5.1, I believe. I will be removing that in favor of 3.4.6, which is what I run on my desktop.
I still would prefer the options and tweaks that you get with 10.04, but that is going to be really too out-of-date soon. As it stands, there are many packages that 10.04 does update, but not with the most current line. Thunderbird is still being updated, but using the 3.x line instead of going to 11.x. I installed TB 11.x myself and created a launcher for it. That way, when there is an update for TB with 10.04, it will not overwrite the "proper" TB folders from 11.x back to 3.x.x.
But, all in all, 12.04 LTS seems to be better for those who want GNOME's 2.x look and feel over GNOME 3 and Unity's look and feel.
I did not like having Writer, Calc, and the other LO icons show up on the limited left "panel" space that Unity uses. I display Writer and the "all module" launch icons on my top panel and my desktop screen. Did not need Draw or the Presentation icons shown.
Well, that is my opinion.
But at least Ubuntu is making it easier for us GNOME 2.x people.
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Hi 
I generally get details like that from DistroWatch
http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=ubuntu
Details about each and every package included in a distro is beyond the scope of a decent press release announcing the new release. Also why would TDF keep a record of what each distro uses?
DistroWatch are pretty awesome at what they do and are quick to make changes if you ever find a mistake although that's unlikely. People that attempt to duplicate their work rather than support it tend to end up covering maybe 20 distros at most and fairly badly and out-dated. If anything it would be nice for TDF to give DW a regular donation, however small.
Just my tuppence worth
Regards from
Tom
May I ask for advice,
I have an old spare laptop (HP/Compaq NX9005) and thought of installing a Linux, e.g. Ubuntu on it.
>> are there other Linux-distributions than Ubuntu to be considered as best for private/home use?
>> if Ubuntu, what version do you recommend to start with?
>> can I install Ubuntu without a LibO -- and install LibO separately ? Or OpenO?
>> what LibO version is today best in the Linux/Ubuntu world?
Thanks in advance
Pertti Rönnberg
Hi
Ok, it's only got 512Mb of Ram so choosing the heaviest distro in the world (Ubuntu) is probably not the best choice. Perhaps ask in DistroWatch crazy little weekly "Reader's Comments" thread
http://distrowatch.com/
(err and then navigate to their weekly 'magazine type of thing and view all comments so you can add you own at the bottom. They tend to get a bit crazy in there until they are given a problem of finding the 'best' distro for a particular machine and for what you want. Alternatively, or at the same time, ask somewhere in
http://www.linuxquestions.org
People get quite excited about all this sort of thing so you have to be clear about what you want to use the machine for, eg gaming platform, server, web-browsing and officey stuff, multimedia centre, whatever and don't worry about people being rude as they just can't help it and it can be funny to watch the steam coming out of their ears.
I'm getting quite into the idea of trying Lubuntu which is very much lighter than Ubuntu (what isn't!?!) but there are tons of choices. Mageia is nice and was based on Mandriva which was one of the prettiest distros. I tend to download a few different distros and make a "Live Usb" (bootable usb-stick) or LiveCd/Dvd and then just try them out to see what works best and which i like the look of on a particular machine. A fun day playing around
Most distros now include LibreOffice by default but you can always download and install the official TDF version from the LibreOffice website.
Ubuntu is made to compete with the latest Windows on top-spec machines. It's not really made for old or low-spec ones even with all the effects turned right down it can be a bit heavy.
Regards from
Tom
Tom,
Thank you for bothering and a good answer. As many others have noticed, you are really a nice guy, good to deal with.
Now I got some links where to check the options you mentioned.
Most likely the HP's soul shall be sent to the cyber universe.
(in my belief all machines seem to have a soul: it is not once that I threated my lawn-mower that "if you not.." then it starts immediately; and the same is with my boat motors and other).
Regards
Pertti Rönnberg
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Hi
I generally get details like that from DistroWatch
http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=ubuntu
Details about each and every package included in a distro is beyond the
scope of a decent press release announcing the new release. Also why
would TDF keep a record of what each distro uses?
Distrowatch really isn't for that.
For Ubuntu I've been documenting that here:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibreOffice
It's also the first result in most search engines if you search "Ubuntu
LibreOffice".
You can also check here:
http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libreoffice&searchon=names&suite=all§ion=all
Debian and other derivatives have similar sites:
http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=libreoffice&searchon=names&suite=all§ion=all
http://packages.trisquel.info/search?keywords=libreoffice&searchon=names&suite=all§ion=all
(actually, identical)
TDF could keep a record to distribution-specific records/links such as
the above, I think it's useful, but ultimately it's each distro's job to
make that information available (which they do, see above).
Cheers,
Fabian Rodriguez
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:MagicFab
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Fabián Rodríguez
Hey, I ran a P4 IBM server with 512MB of ram using Ubuntu 10.04LTS.
It worked fine for my use.
If you really need to Lubuntu is the low resource version of Ubuntu.
But, come on, 512MB is not that bad. I have used 10.04 on 512MB P-II and P-III systems before.
Hi
Ok, you can sometimes get lucky with architecture or perhaps if other parts of the spec are a lot higher than min.spec. I would love to try 10.04 on a Raspberry Pi. With Ram and everything all so close to the Cpu i bet you probably could get away with only 256Mb ram (or however low it is).
Regards from
Tom
Pertti,
As already mentioned Ubuntu has two light versions - xubuntu and lubuntu.
They differ from their name sake primarily by the windows manager they use and the collection of file managers, editors, etc they promote. They only really 'retain' their low overhead IF you use all the packages they promote. As a word processor, I think both use AbiWord.
At the moment I am using xubuntu. Well actually xfce file manager over the top of 11.10 ubuntu -- primarily to regain a typical menu driven desktop rather than Unity, which is really nice and glitzy but atrocious as a business interface.
If you intent is to use libreoffice then your main concern will be how well it integrates with the file and windows manager for whatever linux version you choose. Personally I would download the ISOs for the few distros mentioned and *install them*. They are free except for the download costs. If you download the DEB files for libreoffice you will also be able to install it over and over without re-downloading it.
Why install rather than use the Live CD? Personally I find this is the only real way of evaluating a distro with a particular hardware configuration. For example, Ubuntu 11.10 sucks at recognizing my twin-head screens. xfce just worked right out of the box. Go figure.
I suggest you clear your hard drive of all data and set aside an evening. Load xubuntu from scratch then install libreoffice. Throw on one of you most complex documents and spreadsheets and have a play. If the machine is sluggish try lubuntu or any other low-memory dependent distro. Once you have chosen a distro then customize it and work through the inevitable issues that appear when setting up a new operating system.
Hi
Thanks :) Err i didn't mean to get rid of the machine. I've got an older one that i am trying to get basic officey things and a web-browser working on. Hence my interest in Lubuntu as i chickened out of going distro-hopping this time and just want something fairly familiar. I should go with SliTaz as it's interesting and would have loads of elbow room. Then i might have more luck with a couple of even older machines that have some sentimental value.
Regards from
Tom