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To unsubscribe, e-mail to users+help@libreoffice.org
Multiple attempts to unsubscribe by emailing to users+help@libreoffice.org have been unsuccessful. But it's no big deal. I'll just keep unsubscribing daily until it works. Have a good day. Steve
What do you mean by unsuccessful?
Did you receive the automatic reply that you have to confirm, before you get unsubscribed?
Are you receiving the normal mails or the digest?
You can add me to the list of users who have clicked the link "To unsubscribe, e-mail to users+help@libreoffice.org" without receiving automatic replay that needs to be confirmed before one is unsubscribed. To the best of my ability I have been receiving the normal mails not the digest.
No.
To quote from the "Welcome" message:
Welcome! You have been subscribed to the
mailinglist.
To unsubscribe send a message to:
users+unsubscribe@libreoffice.org
And for help send a message to:
Clearly the message trailer is wrong; the correct link for unsubscribing should be the actual "unsubscribe" one shown above. But the "help" should also yield a message with details of the supported command addresses, including how to unsubscribe. I haven't tried that yet -- does it not yet work?
Hi,
Clearly the message trailer is wrong; the correct link for unsubscribing
should be the actual "unsubscribe" one shown above. But the "help"
should also yield a message with details of the supported command
addresses, including how to unsubscribe. I haven't tried that yet --
does it not yet work?
the +help address is mentioned in the footer, as the unsubscription for digest and non-digest readers is different. The +help message explains it.
Florian
Since the community seems to have control over these messages, I'd like to see the trailer say:
For help with list usage, including how to subscribe or unsubscribe, please e-mail to users+help@libreoffice.org.
List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/users/
All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted.
That would avoid the implication that the +help message will actually unsubscribe them -- which might also perturb people who want to stay subscribed but need other help! Alternatively, both forms of the unsubscribe could be supplied, people presumably would know which one they need. But the +help would probably still be relevant as a trailer, so it's getting pretty cumbersome. I do appreciate that the trailer has the double-dash prefix that will keep it from getting replicated ad infinitum in the archives!
Since you seem to know what's going on here, is the discuss list subscription working yet? Also, does the message number used in the +get track directly with the archive, or does it need to come from the Return-Path header as for openoffice.org? Are analogs to the other ezmlm command addresses planned?
...
the +help address is mentioned in the footer, as the unsubscription for digest and non-digest
readers is different. The +help message explains it.Florian
Since the community seems to have control over these messages, I'd like to see the trailer say:
For help with list usage, including how to subscribe or unsubscribe, please e-mail to
users+help@libreoffice.org.
List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/users/
All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted.That would avoid the implication that the +help message will actually unsubscribe them -- which
might also perturb people who want to stay subscribed but need other help! Alternatively, both forms
of the unsubscribe could be supplied, people presumably would know which one they need. But the
+help would probably still be relevant as a trailer, so it's getting pretty cumbersome. I do
appreciate that the trailer has the double-dash prefix that will keep it from getting replicated ad
infinitum in the archives!Since you seem to know what's going on here, is the discuss list subscription working yet? Also,
does the message number used in the +get track directly with the archive, or does it need to come
from the Return-Path header as for openoffice.org? Are analogs to the other ezmlm command addresses
planned?
Why even have to send an email to users+help@libreoffice.org begin with?
That's IMO just plain silly. If there are multiple uninstall email
addresses then provide a link to a *proper* mail list page that explains
in *detail* how to unsubscribe (list, digest, whatever).
The better method would be do do as the dev list does and use mailman:
http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
where the user can set their own preferences, unsubscribe, etc.
This continuing of having to subscribe w/nomail for gmane.org access,
issues with unsubscribing, etc., is a reminder of email lists gone bad
w/OOo.
Hi Barbara,
Since the community seems to have control over these messages, I'd like
to see the trailer say:For help with list usage, including how to subscribe or unsubscribe,
please e-mail to users+help@libreoffice.org.
the problem is, that this is too long, as we had reports from Google Mail users complaining there is a line break after the +
So, we had to keep it rather short.
But let's see and improve the footer step by step. Maybe the idea with a dedicated mailing list page is good.
Since you seem to know what's going on here, is the discuss list
subscription working yet? Also, does the message number used in the +get
Err, sure, it always worked? discuss+subscribe@documentfoundation.org
track directly with the archive, or does it need to come from the
Return-Path header as for openoffice.org? Are analogs to the other ezmlm
command addresses planned?
At the moment, the Return Path header is the one containing the right ID, I guess.
Florian
Hi Barbara,
Since the community seems to have control over these messages, I'd like
to see the trailer say:For help with list usage, including how to subscribe or unsubscribe,
please e-mail to users+help@libreoffice.org.the problem is, that this is too long, as we had reports from Google Mail users complaining there is a line break after the +
So, we had to keep it rather short.
In that case, to avoid awkward breaks, how about "E-mail to users+help@libreoffice.com for help with list usage, including how to subscribe or unsubscribe." Or leave out the "including" phrase in my original suggestion. Saying that's how to get help is accurate, and much less confusing than implying that it will unsubscribe you.
But let's see and improve the footer step by step. Maybe the idea with a dedicated mailing list page is good.
Could you expand on that, please?
Since you seem to know what's going on here, is the discuss list
subscription working yet? Also, does the message number used in the +getErr, sure, it always worked? discuss+subscribe@documentfoundation.org
When I first tried, at the same time I subscribed here, I got an "undelivered" message:
<discuss+subscribe@libreoffice.org>: host libreoffice.org[178.63.91.70] said:
550 5.1.1<discuss+subscribe@libreoffice.org>: Recipient address rejected:
User unknown (in reply to RCPT TO command)
Hence my question. Tried again just now and got the confirmation message, though.
track directly with the archive, or does it need to come from the
Return-Path header as for openoffice.org? Are analogs to the other ezmlm
command addresses planned?At the moment, the Return Path header is the one containing the right ID, I guess.
... and the other command addresses (index, thread, etc.)?
Hi Barbara,
In that case, to avoid awkward breaks, how about "E-mail to
users+help@libreoffice.com for help with list usage, including how to
subscribe or unsubscribe." Or leave out the "including" phrase in my
original suggestion. Saying that's how to get help is accurate, and much
less confusing than implying that it will unsubscribe you.
I just did a small change - see the footer of this mail. Hope this is better understandable.
But let's see and improve the footer step by step. Maybe the idea with
a dedicated mailing list page is good.Could you expand on that, please?
I guess that having a page with all mailing lists available, including their URLs and archives is a good idea. But let's wait with that until our CMS is running -- the current listing on the website is just a temporary solution.
When I first tried, at the same time I subscribed here, I got an
"undelivered" message:
Strange... should work, and never heard about this error before.
... and the other command addresses (index, thread, etc.)?
Sorry?
Florian
Hi Barbara,
In that case, to avoid awkward breaks, how about "E-mail to
users+help@libreoffice.com for help with list usage, including how to
subscribe or unsubscribe." Or leave out the "including" phrase in my
original suggestion. Saying that's how to get help is accurate, and much
less confusing than implying that it will unsubscribe you.I just did a small change - see the footer of this mail. Hope this is better understandable.
Definitely an improvement, thanks! I sure appreciate your responsiveness.
But let's see and improve the footer step by step. Maybe the idea with
a dedicated mailing list page is good.Could you expand on that, please?
I guess that having a page with all mailing lists available, including their URLs and archives is a good idea. But let's wait with that until our CMS is running -- the current listing on the website is just a temporary solution.
Yes, it could be like the one on the openoffice.org website but with unsubscribe mailto's as well. Are you referring here to putting a link to that page in the message footer? Sounds like a plan! And it could index into the FAQ, too.
When I first tried, at the same time I subscribed here, I got an
"undelivered" message:Strange... should work, and never heard about this error before.
I seem to remember somebody else mentioning this on the OOo users list, but in any case we seem to be OK now.
... and the other command addresses (index, thread, etc.)?
Sorry?
If you send a message to users-help@openoffice.org, you'll see some other commands that don't seem to be supported yet for the LibO list management (at least from its own help). Some of them might be useful.
Hi,
Definitely an improvement, thanks! I sure appreciate your responsiveness.
thanks. 
Yes, it could be like the one on the openoffice.org website but with
unsubscribe mailto's as well. Are you referring here to putting a link
to that page in the message footer? Sounds like a plan! And it could
index into the FAQ, too.
Exactly. When that page is ready, removing the +help address, but rather pointing to that page could be helpful. Something like:
"Information on unsubscribing and accessing the archives are available at: ..."
I seem to remember somebody else mentioning this on the OOo users list,
but in any case we seem to be OK now.
Ok, let me know if it occurs again.
If you send a message to users-help@openoffice.org, you'll see some
other commands that don't seem to be supported yet for the LibO list
management (at least from its own help). Some of them might be useful.
Oh, no, not right now, unfortunately. But we're working closely with the mlmmj developers to implement new features. In fact, one script written by my colleague Alex, which stripts HTML and attachments out of mails, already made it into their contrib tree.
Florian
It would sure be nice to be able to unsubscribe.Following info fromusers+help@libreoffice.orgresults in the following from "Hi, this is the mlmmj program managing the mailinglistusers@libreoffice.orgYou are not subscribed to this list, so you cannot unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from the digest of this list send a message to:users+unsubscribe-digest@libreoffice.org"So I continue to get the list mail.-- Edhttp://mysite.verizon.net/vze1zhwu/Powered by SeaMonkey:http://www.seamonkey-project.org/Children seldom misquote you. In fact, they usually repeat word for word what you shouldn’t have said. – E-mail to users+help@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/users/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Hi Ed,
It would sure be nice to be able to unsubscribe.Following info
if you have the digest, write to
users+unsubscribe-digest@libreoffice.org
Otherwise, write to
users+unsubscribe@libreoffice.org
You will receive an e-mail you need to confirm, then you're unsubscribed.
Florian
Thank you. Worked fine when using the proper address.