Very basic questions

Hullo,

Some very basic questions that I don't see in your FAQs !

I've been using Open Office for some years now and want to change to Libre Office.

Will Libre Office open all the files I have made with Open Office ?

When I install Libre Office will it pick up any of the templates I have made and use in Open Office, or will I have to remake them ?

Can Libre Office and Open Office both be installed and used on one machine ?

Regards,

Robert.

Hello,

Hullo,

Some very basic questions that I don't see in your FAQs !

I've been using Open Office for some years now and want to change to Libre
Office.

Will Libre Office open all the files I have made with Open Office ?

Yes, it will open the files that you've created with OpenOffice.org.

When I install Libre Office will it pick up any of the templates I have made
and use in Open Office, or will I have to remake them ?

I am not 100 % sure, but I think, it will use the templates. You might have to import them into LibreOffice, but you don't have to re-create them.

Can Libre Office and Open Office both be installed and used on one machine ?

Yes, I'm using LibreOffice and OpenOffice.org on the same computer. I haven't experienced any problems.

Regards,
Sigrid

Thank you very much for the fast reply !

Regards,

Robert.

Hello,

Hullo,

Some very basic questions that I don't see in your FAQs !

I've been using Open Office for some years now and want to change to Libre
Office.

Will Libre Office open all the files I have made with Open Office ?

Yes, it will open the files that you've created with OpenOffice.org.

But there are some problems, especially with pictures in .doc-files....
at least there are a lot of problems reported her about that....

Can Libre Office and Open Office both be installed and used on one machine ?

Yes, I'm using LibreOffice and OpenOffice.org on the same computer. I haven't experienced any problems.

Some problems seems to 'go away' when openoffice.org is de-installed...

Regards,
Sigrid

Just to add somethings to this questions.....

Hi :slight_smile:

Yes, LibreOffice can open any and all documents created in OpenOffice. There
are no problems there afaik. The problem with ".doc" files (or ".docx") is NOT
between OpenOffice and LibreOffice. Such files saved by either LO or OOo and
then opened in the other look the same. (except that LO can add ".svg" pictures
which OOo can't handle yet).

Frequently, documents saved by any version of MS Word and then opened with any
other version of Word or any other program do have problems with layout.
Usually it is just pictures but sometimes other objects that have not been
formatted "inline" (whatever that means) have wandered off-course slightly but
can be dragged back into place.

On different machine's word-processors tend to re-organise layouts a little to
take into account the printer settings on that machine. This makes it even more
important to format pictures and objects inline rather than 'floating' or
'skating' around over the top of text (at least that is the way i understand
'inline' at the moment).

There appears to be 5 ways around the layout problems.
1. Use
File - "Export to pdf"
because pdf retains exactly the layout regardless of printer settings or
anything. Perhaps send the ".doc" along with the ".pdf" (which i re-save as a
".gif" as it can be much lighter-weight). People can see the layout of the pdf
and then edit the ".doc". Annoyingly, pdf is difficult for most people to edit
but at least the layout is unchanged.

2. Make sure pictures and objects are formatted inline when you edit/create a
document.

3. Drag the pictures and objects back into the right places.

4. Give everyone links to download LibreOffice (or OpenOffice but preferably
LibreO) whenever you send out documents.

5 Use the ".odt" format instead. Most MS Office users can read/write/edit
these now. Only MS Office 2003 and earlier can't and most users of those older
products might appreciate upgrading to LibreO anyway.

Some people are managing to use both OpenOffice and LibreOffic on one machine
but it generally seems to cause problems. I gather that these problems are
being worked on. I would recommend only having 1 or the other at any one time
as there are unlikely to be any differences between documents produced by either
except that LibreO has a bit more functionality and a more aggressive update
schedule.

Regards from
Tom :slight_smile:

Hi :slight_smile:

Yes, LibreOffice can open any and all documents created in OpenOffice. There
are no problems there afaik. The problem with ".doc" files (or ".docx") is NOT
between OpenOffice and LibreOffice. Such files saved by either LO or OOo and
then opened in the other look the same. (except that LO can add ".svg" pictures
which OOo can't handle yet).

Frequently, documents saved by any version of MS Word and then opened with any
other version of Word or any other program do have problems with layout.
Usually it is just pictures but sometimes other objects that have not been
formatted "inline" (whatever that means) have wandered off-course slightly but
can be dragged back into place.

On different machine's word-processors tend to re-organise layouts a little to
take into account the printer settings on that machine. This makes it even more
important to format pictures and objects inline rather than 'floating' or
'skating' around over the top of text (at least that is the way i understand
'inline' at the moment).

There appears to be 5 ways around the layout problems.
1. Use
File - "Export to pdf"
because pdf retains exactly the layout regardless of printer settings or
anything. Perhaps send the ".doc" along with the ".pdf" (which i re-save as a
".gif" as it can be much lighter-weight). People can see the layout of the pdf
and then edit the ".doc". Annoyingly, pdf is difficult for most people to edit
but at least the layout is unchanged.

2. Make sure pictures and objects are formatted inline when you edit/create a
document.

3. Drag the pictures and objects back into the right places.

4. Give everyone links to download LibreOffice (or OpenOffice but preferably
LibreO) whenever you send out documents.

5 Use the ".odt" format instead. Most MS Office users can read/write/edit
these now. Only MS Office 2003 and earlier can't and most users of those older
products might appreciate upgrading to LibreO anyway.

I wouldn't recommend this. MS-ODF differs in a number of ways from everybody else's ODF, and spreadsheets in particular get really mangled. The problems are not as apparent with text documents, but....

Neither MS Office for Macs 2008 or 20011 support ODF.

Larry

HI :slight_smile:

Ok, so my 5th option wasn't great. I didn't realise how restrictive those
wonderful MicroSoft products are. The odt is fairly fine in Windows on MSO 2007
& 2010. Perhaps stick with the remaining 4 options especially the one about
passing people the link to download LibreOffice. At least you don't have to
uninstall MS Office to install LibreOffice!

Regards from
Tom :slight_smile:

I would like to down load LO.
I'm running Ubuntu 10.10 32 bit.
The Web Site is giving me three choices,
x86(deb)
x64(rpm)
x64(deb)

Which is the correct version?

Thank you

Actually there are four choices, but since you don't want rpms at all
and you're not running 64-bit, go with x86(deb). It might be better
for you to add the LO PPA and use synaptic or apt-get.

...

Will Libre Office open all the files I have made with Open Office ?

Yes, it will open the files that you've created with OpenOffice.org.

But there are some problems, especially with pictures in .doc-files....
at least there are a lot of problems reported her about that....

...

You'd be wrong.
$ locate versionrc
/opt/libreoffice/basis3.3/program/versionrc
/opt/libreoffice/program/versionrc
/opt/libreoffice/ure/bin/versionrc
/opt/ooo-dev/basis3.2/program/versionrc
/opt/ooo-dev/basis3.3/program/versionrc
/opt/ooo-dev/basis3.4/program/versionrc
/opt/ooo-dev/ure/bin/versionrc
/opt/ooo-dev3/program/versionrc
/opt/openoffice.org/basis3.2/program/versionrc
/opt/openoffice.org/basis3.3/program/versionrc
/opt/openoffice.org/ure/bin/versionrc
/opt/openoffice.org3/program/versionrc
/usr/lib/openoffice/basis3.2/program/versionrc
/usr/lib/openoffice/program/versionrc
/usr/lib/ure/bin/versionrc

That's LO, OOo-Dev, OOo-standard, OOo-Ubuntu; all run at the same time,
all run in parallel, and none have issues with each other.

If you plan to continue to provide such advise, please clarify: 1) the
OS that the OP might have issues with (there are indeed some issue with
Windows), and 2) cite the issues that you refer to rather than "at least
there are a lot of problems reported her about that". There indeed may
be problems, but if we are to maintain a valid 'user' list, IMO
responders should at least make an attempt to cite the issues and/or
point to where the poster can likely find a reference or answer.

So how about citing a reference for "But there are some problems,
especially with pictures in .doc-files" so that others on the list can
understand the issue as well?

...

Will Libre Office open all the files I have made with Open Office ?

Yes, it will open the files that you've created with OpenOffice.org.

But there are some problems, especially with pictures in .doc-files....
at least there are a lot of problems reported her about that....

My apologies, wrong quote, should be:

1 or 2 specific instances of something working does not prove that it always
works.

We have had a number of strange errors in the lists where people have had both
LO and OOo installed. Uninstalling one or the other has often been stated as
solving problems. I am sorry you don't remember. If you want people to keep
having problems and spend ages trouble-shooting when an easy answer is
apparently fixing things for people then i really don't know what to suggest.
Personally i would prefer to solve problems fast with the least amount of
trouble to non-technical users.

Rather than spamming the list with accusations why not simply provide your
alternative answer? Lets see whose approach solves the problem-at-hand fastest.

'Regards' from
Tom :slight_smile:

Hmm, this mis-quotes my statement. I said that ".doc" files created by either
OOo or LO are almost always easily read by the other program. However when MS
Office is involved that there appear to be problems but those problems are
fairly easy to fix or work-around.

Regards from
Tom