Very unhappy camper

users
#1

I just began the process of recovering from attempting to run a .ppt
slideshow that crashed my machine.

I attempted to run it once and it crashed Impress. I tried to run it
again and it crashed my machine - hard. I now have a partially
unrecoverable VMWare Workstation VM that I critically need to be able
to run.

I am running:

2.6.35-24-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Thu Dec 2 02:41:37 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux
DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu
DISTRIB_RELEASE=10.10
DISTRIB_CODENAME=maverick
DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 10.10"

LibreOffice 3.3.0
OOO330m18 (Build:4)
tag libreoffice-3.3.0.2

Unfortunately the .ppt file is confidential information and I can't
submit it for analysis, but this is seriously bad - LO should not
crash the host no matter how screwed up one of its (or MSO's) files
might be.

#2

Shouldn't be using a beta version for critical stuff!

#3

Corrections:

1) I was running LO on the host, not in the VM.

2) It didn't actually crash the host, it crashed GNOME.

3) I wound up having to reboot the machine because VMWS is extremely
stubborn about letting go of what it thinks it owns.

I still contend that LO should not be crashing the windows manager....

#4

i share your thoughts on how robust a system should be. This sounds like an X
issue, video card/driver or X-windows. Check your '/var/log/Xorg.0.log' file and
the output of 'dmesg' for clues.

A couple of thoughts possibly related to the crash, Ubuntu 10.10 is not the same
quality as the LTS release, . Run a release candidate on top of that, and you
don't have the robust system you seek.

I run VM's on my Linux host, I use 'nfs' for Linux guest file sharing, and Samba
for Windows guests. This puts all data on the host, which has backups, problems
with the VM don't affect the security of the data. Being the cautious type, I
have a backup of my Windows guests VM.

#5

If worse comes to worse, boot with a live CD and copy your VM directory for the critical machine to another machine.

Michel-André

#6

People, the ubuntus are inherently inferior versions of linux and have
a tendency to crash often, especially if the gui is gnome. Please take
this into consideration, first look at the environment before the
application.

Kate Draven
CyberPunk X Computers

#7

In an effort to avoid a genuinely stupid religious war, I'm going to
pass on your unnecessary personal opinion of Linux and GDM
distributions. It is irrelevant.

The particular PowerPoint show, which LO should run without crashing
anything, regardless of what the underlying OS, distribution or GDM
is, crashed twice. First by itself, then the second time it took down
the gdm. When an app crashes by itself, there is no need to look
anywhere else for its flaws. If it happens to take down something
else at the same time, the app is still the first place to look for
problems.

This .ppt runs perfectly in MSO Power Point under WinXPSP3 and,
AMAZINGLY ENOUGH, under this:

OpenOffice.org 3.2.1
OOO320m19 (Build:9505)
ooo-build 3.2.1.4, Ubuntu package 1:3.2.1-7ubuntu1

So, your snobbery aside, the problem clearly does not lie in Ubuntu or GNOME....

#8

Hey kid, stop spreading FUD. I've used Ubuntu and Debian concurrently
for the last 5 yrs and while there are a few differences, they are both
equally stable. Neither is inferior to the other. My problems with
Ubuntu are philosophical, not technical.

#9

Ubuntu is meant to be competitive with Windows and does a great job of bringing
people into linux-land. A significant percentage learn our values and a fair
percentage find they can contribute to the wider linux community.

It doesn't need to be very stable to do that because almost anything is likely
to be more robust than Window (except DVL of course). Anyone really excited
about stability can move somewhere closer to BSD although i have not had
problems with stability in Ubuntu.

Regards from
Tom :slight_smile:

#10

You are a troll... right?

Yep. I thought so.

#11

Silly people

#12

I"m not spreading FUD, I'm speaking from my experience. When I tried
to introduce linux via ubuntu, it was a disaster.

However, given the amount of harsh/childish comments (not you Tom)
I'll keep my experiences to myself.

So much for freedom in FOSS.

I'll end with the fact that some of you should be very ashamed of yourselves.

Kate

#13

Not FUD? I didn't notice in your post that you made any attempt to
research your problem via forums, mailing lists, etc. Did you try
redownloading, burning another CD and reinstalling? A search on your
name turned up no posts requesting help with Ubuntu.

#14

Bob, your wasting your time on someone who admits, "When I tried to
introduce linux via ubuntu, it was a disaster."

Illud ipsa loquitur.

#15

Fuck off all of you. How's that?

#16

I know. I just enjoy rubbing their noses in it once in a while.

#17

Yup. Troll. NoOp was right.

#18

I was told this was just a bunch of losers living in their mother's
basements, still I thought I'd give a chance. They were right.

#19

What is your purpose in being here at all? You have posted a few good
ideas, but when you spout off with absurd criticisms of OSs that have
little or nothing to do with LibreOffice as a product, suddenly you're
offended when people don't like it?

If you're here to help, help.

If not, go away. No one is forcing you to be here.

A little etiquette would not hurt you one bit, either.

#20

Hi Kate,

Fuck off all of you. How's that?

That's not the kind of language, that we all want to see here.

I am not a moderator of this list and I don't have any other authority
here, but I don't like this attitude you're showing here. I fully
agree with the statement, that we should show respect to each other,
and that this should be reflected in the language used as well.
Something like what you wrote above, doesn't fit in here.

When you're about to send such an email, save it first, do something
different, re-read it, edit it, so that it uses respectful language,
and then send it.

I was proud being part of this mailing list, where there was a
respectful tone used.

Sigrid