Weblate: help ranking what you need :)

sophi · February 23, 2022, 8:47am

Hi all,

The Board would like to dedicate a budget to fund some Weblate issues/enhancements and I'd like to have your feedback on what would be the most important for your team.

Below is a list of tickets that I monitor on Weblate project. This is what I think would help l10n teams to work faster but you may have others in mind. So please review and rank the list. If you have other tickets, also add them in the ranking. Thanks a lot in advance!

https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/7205
unchanged translation flag notwithstanding glossary term marked as untranslatable

https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/6440
Translation Memory Maintenance - Delete Entries

https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/5898
Allow to update translation comments from UI

https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/5854
Autofix Bangla/Bengali sentence ender to ।

https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/5842
Shortcut for suggest

https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/5792
Component lists in the selected language

https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/5447
Per-language translation workflow setting

https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/4368
Improved presentation of differences in machine translations

https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/4160
Allow to filter on language in reports

https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/3455
add Document Foundation identity provider

https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/3242
Ability to download all translation memory from a given project in a per-language basis

https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/3166
Translation propagation

https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/2241
Search who translates the same language

https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/2127
Create Group Administration Permissions

https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/1994
Check if two different strings share same translation

https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/1661
Suggestion rejection reason: possibility of explaining why you reject a suggestion

https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/263
Nested projects or project grouping

Cheers
Sophie

ohallot · February 23, 2022, 1:14pm

HI Sophie

My suggestions for weblate are

1) a link in the Weblate UI to go to the root of the project. In other words: to be able to go directly to

https://translations.documentfoundation.org/languages/pt_BR/libo_help-master/

without having to select language (menu Languages - pt-BR) and then click in LibreOfficeHelp - master.

2) Have Machine Translation as a suggestion alongside with Memory Translation.

Today, in Help long strings, I copy&pasta between Weblate and a free machine translation service (Google, Bing, Deepl, Matecat...) to spare typing effort especially when weblate memory translation returns no match.

Machine translation served as suggestion forces a second read before committing translation.

3) Remove the extra duplicate Glossary projects I have in my weblate screen (I have 6 in the master UI project and 3 entries in the master Help)

Thanks for the nice work of the L10n team
Olivier

sophi · February 23, 2022, 1:22pm

Hi Olivier,

HI Sophie

My suggestions for weblate are

1) a link in the Weblate UI to go to the root of the project. In other words: to be able to go directly to

https://translations.documentfoundation.org/languages/pt_BR/libo_help-master/

without having to select language (menu Languages - pt-BR) and then click in LibreOfficeHelp - master.

2) Have Machine Translation as a suggestion alongside with Memory Translation.

Today, in Help long strings, I copy&pasta between Weblate and a free machine translation service (Google, Bing, Deepl, Matecat...) to spare typing effort especially when weblate memory translation returns no match.

Machine translation served as suggestion forces a second read before committing translation.

3) Remove the extra duplicate Glossary projects I have in my weblate screen (I have 6 in the master UI project and 3 entries in the master Help)

Thanks for your suggestions, however the goal is to rank currently existing tickets. So please check if your issues are already in there or create a ticket if not.
Thanks in advance,
Cheers
Sophie

sophi · February 23, 2022, 2:13pm

Hi Olivier,

Answering in detail to your request,

HI Sophie

My suggestions for weblate are

1) a link in the Weblate UI to go to the root of the project. In other words: to be able to go directly to

https://translations.documentfoundation.org/languages/pt_BR/libo_help-master/

I guess this is what Tuomas requested on #5447

without having to select language (menu Languages - pt-BR) and then click in LibreOfficeHelp - master.

2) Have Machine Translation as a suggestion alongside with Memory Translation.

Today, in Help long strings, I copy&pasta between Weblate and a free machine translation service (Google, Bing, Deepl, Matecat...) to spare typing effort especially when weblate memory translation returns no match.

Machine translation served as suggestion forces a second read before committing translation.

You were in the team meeting yesterday when we discussed it. Before going there, we need to investigate on several topics. Following that, I wanted to open another thread to get feedback on Matecat that you proposed (thanks :). Testing it this morning, I see it covers a good list of languages and several formats. Compared to the others, it would remove the expensive costs of some or legal issues.

3) Remove the extra duplicate Glossary projects I have in my weblate screen (I have 6 in the master UI project and 3 entries in the master Help)

We discussed this also already. If I remember well removing projects will remove duplicate glossaries (1 entry per project). Cloph will upgrade Weblate to 4.10 soon and I think (I'll ask him for confirmation) he will remove 7.0 and 7.1 at the same time.
@all: if you think 7.2 should be removed at the same time, let me know

Thanks for the nice work of the L10n team

+1000

Cheers
Sophie

ilmari · February 23, 2022, 2:43pm

I looked more deeply into Matecat now - I never before managed to find information about the way it uses machine translation. It looks like Matecat itself will not give us any benefits. See these resources:

https://guides.matecat.com/my

"By default, we provide Google Translate API (we pay for it and offer it for free to Matecat users). If for any reason the Google Translate API is not available, we automatically switch to the Microsoft Bing API."

https://guides.matecat.com/machine-translation-engines

It looks like ModernMT is the system that is associated with Matecat creators:
https://guides.matecat.com/modernmt-mmt-plug-in

It is open source, even though it has a higher quality version for enterprises:
https://github.com/modernmt/modernmt

Weblate does support it, also with a self-hosted version:
https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/blob/main/weblate/machinery/modernmt.py
https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/1627#issuecomment-657171205

However, Weblate also supports LibreTranslate, which uses OpenNMT at its core:
https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/blob/main/weblate/machinery/libretranslate.py
https://libretranslate.com/
https://github.com/LibreTranslate/LibreTranslate
https://github.com/argosopentech/argos-translate
https://opennmt.net/

Could you please also evaluate LibreTranslate in addition to ModernMT?

Ilmari

tjhietala · February 23, 2022, 3:02pm

Hello Sophie,

sophi kirjoitti 23.2.2022 16:13:

Hi Olivier,

Answering in detail to your request,

HI Sophie

My suggestions for weblate are

1) a link in the Weblate UI to go to the root of the project. In other words: to be able to go directly to

https://translations.documentfoundation.org/languages/pt_BR/libo_help-master/

I guess this is what Tuomas requested on #5447

What I was referring to in that issue is described here: https://docs.weblate.org/en/latest/workflows.html
Being able to set the translation workflow setting individually for each language could be useful if different language teams prefer different workflows. Currently in Weblate it's only possible to set it for all languages at once.

Best regards,
Tuomas

tjhietala · February 23, 2022, 3:52pm

Hello,

Thanks to the Board for this initiative.

For me the most important enhancement would be the this:
https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/1861
Search should ignore hotkey symbols

However, it looks like it could be difficult to implement in Weblate's current architecture.

The following would be useful for translators who prefer to use external tools for translating:
https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/5519
Glossary import and export with explanations

Might be interesting to TDF:
https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/4551
Download in ODS file format

Tuomas

sophi kirjoitti 23.2.2022 10:47:

mbalabanov · February 23, 2022, 10:03pm

Hi Sophie,

I am very happy to learn about this effort! My most wanted enhancements
among the mentioned ones would be these three:

https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/6440
Translation Memory Maintenance - Delete Entries

https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/4368
Improved presentation of differences in machine translations

https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/1861
Search should ignore hotkey symbols

Cheers,
Mihail

valtermura · February 26, 2022, 5:25pm

In data mercoledì 23 febbraio 2022 09:47:03 CET, sophi ha scritto:

Hi all,

The Board would like to dedicate a budget to fund some Weblate
issues/enhancements and I'd like to have your feedback on what would be
the most important for your team.

Below is a list of tickets that I monitor on Weblate project. This is
what I think would help l10n teams to work faster but you may have
others in mind. So please review and rank the list. If you have other
tickets, also add them in the ranking. Thanks a lot in advance!

Hi Sophie

thanks for this report. For us, all issues are worthy of interest.

However, I opened a new issue for a slowness experimented by our team during the
suggestion's editing, which caused delay in our workflow:

https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/7300[1]

but one of the administrators replied to us to check the server's log in order to verify the
issue. So, I ask to you to check if this is an issue of TDF Installation or a program's bug.

sophi · February 28, 2022, 1:44pm

Hi Valter,

In data mercoledì 23 febbraio 2022 09:47:03 CET, sophi ha scritto:

Hi all,

The Board would like to dedicate a budget to fund some Weblate
issues/enhancements and I'd like to have your feedback on what would be
the most important for your team.

Below is a list of tickets that I monitor on Weblate project. This is
what I think would help l10n teams to work faster but you may have
others in mind. So please review and rank the list. If you have other
tickets, also add them in the ranking. Thanks a lot in advance!

Hi Sophie

thanks for this report. For us, all issues are worthy of interest.

Thanks for your feedback

However, I opened a new issue for a slowness experimented by our team during the
suggestion's editing, which caused delay in our workflow:

https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/7300[1] >
but one of the administrators replied to us to check the server's log in order to verify the
issue. So, I ask to you to check if this is an issue of TDF Installation or a program's bug.

I'll talk about it with Christian. Is it happening since a long time or is it new?
Cheers
Sophie

stanislav.horacek · February 28, 2022, 9:11pm

Hi,

Dne 23. 02. 22 v 9:47 sophi napsal(a):

Hi all,

The Board would like to dedicate a budget to fund some Weblate issues/enhancements and I'd like to have your feedback on what would be the most important for your team.

Below is a list of tickets that I monitor on Weblate project. This is what I think would help l10n teams to work faster but you may have others in mind. So please review and rank the list. If you have other tickets, also add them in the ranking. Thanks a lot in advance!

in my opinion, resolving these issues would help a lot (sorted from most important):

https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/4368
Improved presentation of differences in machine translations

https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/6440
Translation Memory Maintenance - Delete Entries

https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/1661
Suggestion rejection reason: possibility of explaining why you reject a suggestion

https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/3242
Ability to download all translation memory from a given project in a per-language basis

https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/263
Nested projects or project grouping

I can also confirm the annoying issue reported by Valter (maybe TDF instance specific?):
https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/7300

Thanks you,
Stanislav

yaron · March 1, 2022, 7:19am

Hi,
I want to vote for something that I'm not sure I've seen on the list:
https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/2969
Dark (Night) theme for Weblate, Sadly it's not divided in tasks but there
are some attempts.

Thanks.
Yaron Shahrabani

sophi · March 3, 2022, 4:40pm

Hi Valter,

Hi Valter,

In data mercoledì 23 febbraio 2022 09:47:03 CET, sophi ha scritto:

Hi all,

The Board would like to dedicate a budget to fund some Weblate
issues/enhancements and I'd like to have your feedback on what would be
the most important for your team.

Below is a list of tickets that I monitor on Weblate project. This is
what I think would help l10n teams to work faster but you may have
others in mind. So please review and rank the list. If you have other
tickets, also add them in the ranking. Thanks a lot in advance!

Hi Sophie
thanks for this report. For us, all issues are worthy of interest.

Thanks for your feedback

However, I opened a new issue for a slowness experimented by our team during the
suggestion's editing, which caused delay in our workflow:

https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/7300[1] >
but one of the administrators replied to us to check the server's log in order to verify

the

issue. So, I ask to you to check if this is an issue of TDF Installation or a program's bug.

I'll talk about it with Christian. Is it happening since a long time or is it new?
Cheers
Sophie

Hi Sophi

As far as I remember, we are experiencing this problem since, at least, the last 3 sessions
of translation. I received another feedback form the developer.

Thanks for the additional information, I'll give them to Cloph who is searching what might be wrong in our instance.

Here it is:
"You can also ask them for upgrade, it might address some issues as well ;-). There were
several performance improvements to labels or variants in case you happen to use these."

We are now at 4.8.1 and Christian will very soon upgrade to the latest version
Cheers
Sophie

valtermura · March 3, 2022, 6:20pm

Hi Valter,

In data mercoledì 23 febbraio 2022 09:47:03 CET, sophi ha scritto:

Hi all,

The Board would like to dedicate a budget to fund some Weblate
issues/enhancements and I'd like to have your feedback on what would be
the most important for your team.

Below is a list of tickets that I monitor on Weblate project. This is
what I think would help l10n teams to work faster but you may have
others in mind. So please review and rank the list. If you have other
tickets, also add them in the ranking. Thanks a lot in advance!

Hi Sophie
thanks for this report. For us, all issues are worthy of interest.

Thanks for your feedback

However, I opened a new issue for a slowness experimented by our team during the
suggestion's editing, which caused delay in our workflow:

https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/7300[1] >
but one of the administrators replied to us to check the server's log in order to verify

the

issue. So, I ask to you to check if this is an issue of TDF Installation or a program's bug.

I'll talk about it with Christian. Is it happening since a long time or is it new?
Cheers
Sophie

Hi Sophi

As far as I remember, we are experiencing this problem since, at least, the last 3 sessions
of translation. I received another feedback form the developer.

Here it is:
"You can also ask them for upgrade, it might address some issues as well ;-). There were
several performance improvements to labels or variants in case you happen to use these."

Ciao