Writer: AutoCorrect language resets and sticks to English after Japanese script is inserted

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#1

Good evening.

I'm running LibreOffice 3.6.2.2 on Windows 7. My default language in
LibreOffice is set to Brazilian Portuguese.

When I'm typing a text in Portuguese and insert Japanese text, the
AutoCorrect changes the language to the following text to English. The text
that has already been typed as Portuguese remains unaffected. I am able to
set the text manually back to Portuguese, but as soon as Japanese text is
typed, the roman script that comes afterward is treated again as English.

Is this a known problem? Do anyone know a solution or workaround that
doesn't require manually changing the language every time?

Thank you.

- Raphael Campos

#2

Good afternoon.

I'm sorry for insisting, but it's been 13 days and I haven't had a single
response, nor were able to fix the issue.

At the very least, is anyone here affected by this problem?

Thank you.

#3

I am not sure if my test matches your situation:
I have LibO:
- User interface English
- Asian language: Japanese
- German dictionary installed
- Normally I am using English and Japanese

Test:
- Opened a new writer document, started typing in German.
- The spellchecker showed errors; red wavy lines under words.
- Changed to German (Tools/Language/For all text / German)
- Spellchecker removed red wavy lines under words.
- Switch over to Japanese writing (半角／全角key) and wrote a Japanese sentence (Kanji, hiragana, katakana) without any problems. No wavy red lines under the Japanese words.
- Switched back from Japanese (半角／全角key again) and continued writing German.
No wavy red lines under the German words. Thus writer recognized German correctly.
- copied Japanese text into clipboard and pasted at the end of the German text (no switching to Japanese writing)
- Continued writing German and all is okay.

I am using LibO 3.5.7 on XP / SP3

Hope it gives you a hint.

#4

Hi :slight_smile:
I still have troubles with Japanese fonts.  Someone kindly dug up tons of them for me but i lost the email :(  (well, i carefully put it somewhere safe and now can't find which safe place i put it in :frowning: )  Hmmm, i must have put them on this machine but just not on the main one i meant to. 
Regards from
Tom :slight_smile:

#5

Thank you.

I have reproduced your exact same steps, but with Brazilian Portuguese
instead of German. The document language switches back to English as soon
as I start typing again. Likewise, the default language in
"Tools>Options>Language Settings>Languages>Default languages for documents"
also switches back to English/Japanese when this happens.

Whenever I set the language back to Portuguese, newly typed text is treated
as English. I can, for example, select all the text in Portuguese and set
it to be treated as Portuguese, but any new or modified text gets treated
as English.

#6

Hi Raphael,

Have you tried resetting the user profile.
Often solves strange problems.
wiki.documentfoundation.org/UserProfile

I guess the font language is right in the paragraph and character styles.

Miguel Ángel.

#7

Thank you, but that didn't seem to fix the problem.

I see there's a new LibreOffice version. I believe this issue wasn't
corrected, but I'll update it anyway. I'll let you know if the behavior
changes.

#8

After the update the problem persisted, as expected.

I attached to this e-mail a screenshot that shows the problem in action.
The keyboard layouts used are English International and Microsoft IME for
Japanese.

What I did in that screenshot:
* I typed "Português English" with the English International layout
* Switched to Japanese IME
* Typed "日本語"
* Switched back to English International
* Typed "Português English".

The first two words are treated as Portuguese, the third as Japanese, and
the last two as English.

I have already tried setting the locale to "Português (Brasil)", but the
problem persists. I have also resetted the user profile, as another user
suggested, to no avail.

#9

Now I am reaching the end of my knowledge, but I don't give up yet.

Questions:
1 - What kind of keyboard are you using? (Portugese, English, or Japanese layout)
2 - How do you change to IME input (please explain keystrokes or mouse clicks)

Additionally, you could try to "unzip" the odt-file and look into the code behind to see if there is something which leads to understanding and solution. However, I am not the expert to explain the needed procedure. Have a look in Ask LibO and search a bit. There was recently an explanation on how to "unzip" an odt file.

Maybe someone in this forum could give some explanations on "unzipping" and odt-file

#10

Interesting, I haven't thought about looking at the code. I also noticed
something interesting that I'll be covering later. First, I'll answer your
questions.

1 - I have an English keyboard, with no numeric keypad.
2 - I switch layouts with the shortcuts LShift+LAlt+[120] (1 being US-Intl,
2 is IME and 0 is ABNT2 (Brazilian Portuguese), which I only use when I
don't have an external keyboard). The problem still occurs if I switch by
clicking the language bar.

Now, thinking on extracting the ODF, I created one from the desktop (right
click -> New -> OpenDocument Text). When I opened it on OpenOffice, it
treated all text as English from the start. However, if I open Writer and
start a new document it presents the behavior I pointed before (starts with
Portuguese and switches to English after I type Japanese text). This might
be a problem specific to Windows (this happened both in windows 7 and 8 for
me).

The system language is set to English, and the locale is usually set to
English (US), and I have installed LO with this locale, but I have tried
changing it to Portuguese (Brazil) and the problem still persisted.

I don't know how the ODF file is packed, but 7Zip (the software) is able to
decompress it. I took a look at the code, but I don't know how to repack
the ODF file, so I'm currently unable to test a repacked file. I have now
attached two ODF files - One of them was created on Windows, then edited
(i.e. is completely treated as English), while the other was created in a
new instance of LO, edited and then saved (partially treated as Portuguese).

In the source code (content.xml) of the later file, the part that contains
the text I typed is transcribed below. I would like to change the
style-name of the third span to T1, but I don't know how to repack it to be
used with LO.

<text:p text:style-name="P1"><text:span text:style-name="T1">Português

#11

No answers yet only further questions.

1 - Where are you living?
2 - Is the language bar always visible?
3 - When you start up your PC which information is to be seen at the language bar?
4 - When you switch the language bar, which button do you use?
5 - "When I opened it on OpenOffice...." are you using OpenOffice AND LibO?
6 - When you create a new document from desk top, and write Portuguese and Japanese des it behave the same strange way as when you open a new document from Writer?
7 - "The system language is set to English, and the locale is usually set to English (US), and I have installed LO with this locale,... " means your regional settings in W7and 8 is English?

For your comparision
I run XP/SP3
Regional options
Standards and Format: English (US) but customize to not use the US formats
Location: Japan
Languages - Details
Default Input language: Japanese Microsoft IME Standard 2002 ver 8.1
Languages - Advanced:
Compatibility configuration: unchecked
System configuration: unchecked
Advanced:Languages for non Uni-code program: Japanese

As for opening the file I cannot help you, I am not an expert and never did it myself. I only read recently that a problem with foot and endnotes wass solved by modification of the xml -code of the file. I hope that someone else in this forum can help you with this.

#12

1 - Brazil.
2 - Not floating, if that's what you mean, but it's always visible in the
taskbar.
3 - You mean the default keyboard layout? It's English (International). I
barely use Portuguese, but I often switch to Japanese.
4 - My language switching shortcuts are mapped to LShift+LAlt+[012] (1 is
English, 2 is Japanese and 0 is Portuguese)
5 - Oops, sorry! It's LibreOffice all the time. I still haven't got 100%
accustomed to the name, it seems.
6 - Yes, the same problem happens. However, in this case the file is
already treated as English when I open it. The same thing happen if I save
a blank file from LO, close it then open again - When I type, it's already
treated as English.
7 - That got me a bit confused, so I'll describe all the language settings
I have:
In the "Region" settings: Locale is set to English (US) (I have also tried
with Portuguese). Location ("home") is set to Brazil. Format (dates,
currency etc) is set to Portuguese (Brazil).
Language settings: I've set English (US), Portuguese (BR) and Japanese, in
this order. The system display language is overrided to English (that means
I can reorder the language list but the system language will remain
English). The default input method is also overrided to English (US) -
International.

Now, I think I found something interesting - I mentioned part of the XML
before. I figured out I didn't need to uncompress the ODF to edit the XML;
I could just replace it with a new version with 7Zip.

This is the original ("faulty") code from the file created inside LO and
then saved:

<text:p text:style-name="P1"><text:**span *text:style-name="T1"*>Português English

</text:span><text:span text:style-name="T2">日本語</text:span><text:span *
text:style-name="T3"*>Português English</text:span></text:p>

If I change it to this, it works as expected:

<text:p text:style-name="P1"><text:**span *text:style-name="T1"*>Português English

</text:span><text:span text:style-name="T2">日本語</text:span><text:span *
text:style-name="T1"*>Português English</text:span></text:p>

Now, in the case of the file created on Windows, it's a bit different:

<text:p text:style-name="P1"><text:span text:style-name="T1">Português

English </text:span><text:span text:style-name="T2">日本語 Português
English</text:span></text:p>

You can see the whole second text:span block, contains both Japanese and
English, and is treated naturally and both.

I'm not familiar with the ODF XML options, so I don't know what LibreOffice
options deal with what.

Thank you for your continued support.

#13

1 - because of your fast reply earlier on Friday I got the impression you are in Japan. This would have opened another possibility.

2 - Same with me

3 - This is correct - different to mine, I am using a Japanese keyboard

4 - Language switching never with the language bar excludes this as a source of the problem

5 - LibO OK

6 - Also here no solution

  7 - Seems to be ok as well

Above means the cause is most likely not in Windows but somewhere in LibO and connected to Portuguese and there is a difference to German settings somewhere in the background.

However, you found a setting in the xml code which works. Did save this as a Writer template? If so, when you use this template and create a new Writer file, does this file work as you expect it?