Accessing the mailing list

May I suggest to try Eudora open source edition

Are you suggesting that Eudora would help the unwilling subscribers to escape?

Colin W.

I've been using Eudora OSE for 3-4 months. But editing the orignal message when replying isn't all that easy, things are erased that you don't expect or want to erase. So, you have to back up.

When I was a Windows user, Eudora was my favorite email client, and then Qualcomm dropped further development. I switched to Outlook.

So, now I'm trying Thunderbird, primarily because I can use it as a newsgroup reader. But, I've not decided to go or stay with Tbird as of yet.

Ken

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From: Ken Springer <snowshed@dishmail.net>
To: users@libreoffice.org
Sent: Fri, 25 February, 2011 5:05:37
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Accessing the mailing list

On 2011-02-24 16:15:03 -0700, e-letter said:

May I suggest to try Eudora open source edition

I've been using Eudora OSE for 3-4 months. But editing the orignal message when
replying isn't all that easy, things are erased that you don't expect or want to
erase. So, you have to back up.

When I was a Windows user, Eudora was my favorite email client, and then
Qualcomm dropped further development. I switched to Outlook.

So, now I'm trying Thunderbird, primarily because I can use it as a newsgroup
reader. But, I've not decided to go or stay with Tbird as of yet.
Ken

Hi :slight_smile:
If you are looking for a light & fast email client then "Claws" might be worth
testing too. It probably doesn't have advanced functionality so it probably
won't suit Ken's requirements. Something much heavier with a load more
functionality is "Evolution" which is also free and OpenSource. I'm not sure
about Kmail as i think it needs a K Desktop Environment and i prefer the Gnome
DE.
Regards from
Tom :slight_smile:

I don't think I ever mentioned it in this thread, but I'm on a Mac.

Ken

Evolution is part of Gnome, but I'm pretty sure it is available for
all platforms. I'd go check the Gnome home and see, or just Google
for it.

I just installed LibreOffice 3.3.1. The installation appears to be
successful. However, when I attempt to run the program, I receive the message:

soffice.bin - Entry Point Not Found

The procedure entry point osl_setEnvironment could not be located in the dynamic
link library sal3.dll.

I took a snapshot of the error message. Is is permissible to include
attachments in these messages?

I am running Windows 7 SP1 (32-bit).

What must I do to correct this?

Ernest

On the Evolution download page, no installers, packages, etc. seem to be available there. Only source code for those who wish to build their own program.

Definitely not into that kind of computing any more.

Ken

Hi :slight_smile:

A few Windows users have been talking about "The Bat" email client but it is
Windows-only (i think) so i haven't played around with it.
Regards from
Tom :slight_smile:

Evolution is part of Gnome, but I'm pretty sure it is available for
all platforms.  I'd go check the Gnome home and see, or just Google
for it.

On the Evolution download page, no installers, packages, etc. seem to be
available there.  Only source code for those who wish to build their own
program.

If you're running Linux, you might notice this little gem
(http://projects.gnome.org/evolution/download.shtml):

"Already Included

"Evolution most likely ships with your Linux distribution of choice.
To get your latest supported version, you will want to check with your
distribution supplier."

For Windows, here's the first hit in Google:
http://www.dipconsultants.com/evolution/

Definitely not into that kind of computing any more.

YMMV.

Mac is primary use, Windows is secondary. Linux is on the dream list, but it's a dream that's far off.

Ken

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From: Ken Springer <snowshed@dishmail.net>
To: users@libreoffice.org
Sent: Sun, 27 February, 2011 5:24:42
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Accessing the mailing list

On 2011-02-26 20:34:29 -0700, MR ZenWiz said:

If you're running Linux, you might notice this little gem
(http://projects.gnome.org/evolution/download.shtml):

Mac is primary use, Windows is secondary. Linux is on the dream list, but it's
a dream that's far off.
Ken

Hi :slight_smile:

Dare to dream but spare an hour to live it. Mac and Linux share a lot of
similarities. Both Bsd and Linux are re-writes of Unix. Mac is a tweaked Bsd.
All four share a lot of the same programs and tools and stuff so it wont be
completely unfamiliar to you. A lot less different than the changes between Xp
and Vista/Win7 and MUCH easier to test-drive without any changes to your machine
(except perhaps the bios's boot-order).

Most Linux distros (and recently a few Bsds too) offer a great way of easily
test-driving them without installing onto a hard-drive. A "LiveCd session" is a
bootable Cd although we often use the same term if a usb-stick or flash-card or
something is used instead.

Cd is usually easier to make as it is just a case of 'burning' a disk-image
(.iso) onto a blank Cd and cheaper Cds tend to be better than expensive ones for
this. Many linux distros have a separate iso image to download for a LiveCd but
some such as Ubuntu & Mint use the same Cd as they use as an installer but the
default option is to LiveCd rather than install.

A LiveCd creates a compressed file in Ram that contains the usual Desktop and
"Documents" (and so on) and temp folders, histories and stuff. So, when you
reboot the machine afterwards (whether or not the Cd is still in) everything
saved or done during that LiveCd session is forgotten unless specifically saved
to hard-drive.

So, its great for internet banking and other critically secure stuff but forget
about anything illegal over the internet because ISPs retain traffic-logs.

The main use is to see how the Linux Operating Systems looks in it's defaults on
the unique hardware being used. This usually gives the user an idea about
whether it is worth installing. Try 1 distro, if it's not quite what you are
looking for then try another.

Please let us know how this goes or feel free to ask for suggestions to
try-out. My 3 favourites are Ubuntu, SliTaz (because it is tiny and quick to
try) & Wolvix Hunter 1.1.0.
http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=slitaz
http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=ubuntu
http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=wolvix
Ubuntu finds the internet/network connections automatically but most other
distros will want people to click a few obvious buttons in their control panel
or whatever.

Many regards from
Tom :slight_smile:

Therein lies the problem, a lack of time. :frowning:

Thanks for taking the time to write the information, but I feel bad you did. I already knew almost all of it. :slight_smile: Hopefully, someone else reading this thread will find it very useful.

Dabbled with Red Hat 9.x when Windows XP was still new, and used Ubuntu 10.04 and Fedora 12 live cd's troubleshooting an old HP laptop, I was caught right in the middle of a hard drive failure with no indications that was the problem. (Personal opinion, but if HP and Dell were to vanish from the face of the earth due to some myterious time warp event, I would not shed a tear.)

I stumbled onto a distro that, based on the screenshots, has a Mac "look and feel" to it. Got the .iso on the hard drive. :-).

Someday........... LOL

Ken

What is the name of that distro? I'd like to check it out.

Larry

Hey guys,

I don't mean to sound cocky but, please, get a real OS for your next desktop computer.

Drop Windows and get an intel iMAC. MAC OS X is built on Unix and, /*therefore*/, a highly reliable system
(no such thing as "blue screen"). It also has a Unix shell built into the system which is pretty handy for me.

LibreOffice also seems to be a bit more stable on OS X than on StinkDows.

The main drawback for iMAC is price. However, to coin a phrase, "Try a MAC and you'll never go back!"

Best Regards,

Glenn

Hey guys,

I don't mean to sound cocky but, please, get a real OS for your next desktop computer.

We each have our preferences on a Platform. Each of "our" platforms is the "best", to our opinions.

I started with Windows back in its earliest days. I tried the first Mac systems, but never could afford to switch to a Mac. Now my desktop is Ubuntu 10.10 64-bit. I keep a Vista Laptop for the USB hardware and Windows-only software that I need from time to time. One day I will make it dual boot so I can have Ubuntu on it as well, but I still need a bit of Windows from time to time.

If you can only come up with something like 'StinkDows', and a
definition as '/*therefore*/'......

I certainly will not put that in favor of 'Mac OS X', just because it is
more expensive.

than i rather use a slightly more cheap OS, and also did not have a blue
screen since back in the Win95 days....
(sorry, i skipped Win98 & Vista)

I did not receive a reply. So, I thought I would re-send. I can not find a
solution.

Ernest

This may be an issue for the developers rather than the users -- it certainly is not a problem that's come up here. If you haven't yet done so, you might try checking the MD5SUM of the file you downloaded to see if you got a good copy of the file, and if not, uninstall, download a new copy, and reinstall. If your copy is good, using the reinstall Repair option might help. Maybe somebody else will have more suggestions -- hope so.

Hi,

Have you tried VirtualBox? I have Windows XP running in a virtual machine which I run on my Ubuntu 10.04 desktop.

I can access my USB devices and can run all my Microsoft Windows specific software on it. I have been using this in a production environment for over a year without a problem.

Note that if you want USB connectivity you need to use the version released directly from Oracle rather than the OSE version in the repositories.