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#41

I will probably just wait until I get a chance to add a partition and go ahead and install it. I have been fairly happy with Win7 64 so far. My boot time is just under a minute - a few seconds better than my XP desktop, and WAY better than my old Vista laptop.
Roxy

Hi :slight_smile:
You can reboot the machine with the Ubuntu Cd in and "Try it" instead of
installing. It's the slowest way to try Ubuntu but it's still often faster that
way than Windows.

Actually the 10.04 and the 10.10 are a bit quirky so i tend to choose the
"Install it" option and then at the next page go "Back" and then try the "Try
it" option. [sigh] It takes maybe 10-15 mins to get to a working desktop using
the Cd but Firefox is on the top taskbar and it's worth checking how fast that
works at surfing a few sites.

Regards from
Tom :slight_smile:

From: Roxy Robinson <rocmar62@ranchwireless.com>
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Sat, 11 June, 2011 22:14:12
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Windows "Open with" - the answer - Call for a
cleaner

I have Ubuntu 10.10 desktop CD in my desk. One of these days I hope to get to
that, too.
That's the terrible thing about mainstream, paid for, software. Why make it
perfect (or as perfect as a human can) when that would end your ongoing sales??
Roxy

Hi :slight_smile:
The equivalent in gnu&linux is/are excellent. Plus they also do the "add"
bit
rather well by including search tools so that it's easy to find programs that
you might want to have even if you can't remember their exact names.

There are sooo many things i don't miss about the Windows world. I feel like
i
have broken out of stockholm syndrome or something. Colleagues at work often
hit walls in Windows and are unable to cope with trivial stuff. Makes me
feel
so smug. A few times i have even been able to fix things with a LiveUsb :slight_smile:
Regards from
Tom :slight_smile:

> From: Roxy Robinson <rocmar62@ranchwireless.com>
> To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> Sent: Sat, 11 June, 2011 19:09:00
> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Windows "Open with" - the answer - Call for
a
>cleaner
>
> Tom,
> The Windows "add/remove" program is probably even worse than its

defragger.

>Revo gets pretty deep into the registry - it may leave "main headings" in
the
>registry sometimes, but it really does do a good job of cleaning when it
>uninstalls a program. There are many computer "gurus", writers, etc, that
>recommend it - it seems like anymore if you read an article, anywhere,

about

>speeding up Windows, RevoUninstaller will be mentioned. I know that it
comes
>very close to removing everything of Norton AV, which is one of the worst
>programs there is to get off your computer. There are even special NAV
>uninstallers out there to help with it.
> Roxy
>
>
> Hi :slight_smile:
>
> Thanks Roxy. Windows un-installers always tend to leave chaff behind.
It's
> practically impossible not to. Part of the problem is that MS 'have to'
stick
> with legacy systems such as the registry in order to be backwards
compatible.
>
>
> Generally using Windows means committing to re-installing it every couple
of
> years or just put-up-with the standard slow-downs from all the chaff and
>stuff.
> I found off-line defrags with PerfectDisk helped a lot. Standard defrags,
> especially the default MS one can't defrag system-files which makes them
>almost
> completely useless but Raxco's one can do Virtual Memory (=swap-file)

which

> makes a huge difference.
>
>
> This RevoUninstaller sounds like the other part of the equation.
> Thanks and regards from
> Tom :slight_smile:
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> > From: Roxy Robinson <rocmar62@ranchwireless.com>
> > To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> > Sent: Sat, 11 June, 2011 16:10:21
> > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Windows "Open with" - the answer - Call
for
>a
> >cleaner
> >
> > I would suggest using RevoUninstaller to do ANY program uninstalling,

and

>there
> >is a free version. I have used it with great success for quite a few
years.
>If
> >you use the 4th option from the uninstall dialog window, it will use the
> >programs normal uninstaller, first. Then it scans for all "leftovers"

that

>has
> >left. You will go through a couple of steps where the program will show
you
>what
> >it has found, including what is left in the registry. It lets you pick

and

> >choose what you want to delete, or you can choose "all" and delete. Very
>seldom
> >have I ever had it leave any "crumbles" of a program I no longer wanted
on
my
> >machine.
> > On the "open with" issue, always be sure, when you have picked a

program

>to
> >"open with" from the browse window, that the little box in the bottom,
left
> >hand corner of that window is checked. It says something like "always
open
>this
> >type file with this program".
> > Just a couple of suggestions that may help you out in the future.
> > Roxy Robinson
> >
> >
> > Thanks for the start:
> >
> > I un-installed just OpenOffice and it made no difference - but I was
on
> > the move
> >
> > The finish went like this:-
> > Un-install:- Open office, Lotus Symphony and Libra Office
> >
> > Then in Regedit (about 2 hours):- Delete any mention of the above 3
> > programs
> > and Delete:- all mentions of soffice.exe, swriter etc
> >
> > Delete the directories for the above in Application Data and the
> > Program folders.
> >
> > Then re-install Libra office 3.4 - it works! - I can now use "open
with"
> >
> > Then I re-installed Lotus Symphony 1 - that works with "open with"
> >
> > Then I re-installed Open office 3.3 - and now that does NOT work with
> > "open with".
> >
> > So its whoever is installed first!
> >
> > I am not too bothered this way around as OpenOffice does not cater for
> > Lotus Smart suite files whilst LibreOffice does >> all praise to
> > LibreOffice.
> >
> > BUT, none of those 3 gets a star for cleanliness when de-installing.
> >
> > regards
> >
> > John B
> >

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------

-
>-
> >-
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > Hi :slight_smile:
> > > Un-installing OpenOffice often cures weird and unlikely problems
>especially
> >in
> > > Windows.
> > >
> > >
> > > There is still often a clash between OpenOffice and LibreOffice when
>both
> >are
> > > installed on a system. There are some clever ways to install both but
i
> >don't
> > > have a note of any of the various instructions and have not compared
>their
> > > reliability or effectiveness.
> > >
> > >
> > > Often the main problems occur when the Quick Launcher/Starter is
enabled
> >within
> > > OpenOffice. Even without that they both use the same names on the
> >command-line,
> > > such as "soffice --writer" so the scope for errors and confusions is
>quite
> > > high.
> > >
> > >
> > > Usually just using the "Open with .." and then browsing to the
relevant
> >program
> > > is enough to push that program to the short-list in the "Open with
.."
> >option.
> > >
> > > Regards from
> > > Tom :slight_smile:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: John B<johnb@email2.me>
> > > To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> > > Sent: Fri, 10 June, 2011 14:46:28
> > > Subject: [libreoffice-users] Windows "Open with"
> > >
> > > To open a selected Document with LibreOffice does anyone know how to
make
> > > LibraOffice appear in the Windows "Open With" (and stay there).
> > >
> > > Even when I use the "browse" within the "open with" , then locate
> >LibreOffice
> > > manually, it still does not work, as when I click on LibreOffice or
>Writer
> > > (applications), its ignored and the system jumps back to the

browsing

>list.
> > >
> > > Also Libra Office does not appear in the recommended programs list,
>whilst
> > > OpenOffice does and works fine.
> > >
> > >
> > > Windows XP pro sp3
> > > Libre Office 3.3& 3.4
> > >
> > > John B
> > >
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#42

Hi :slight_smile:
One advantage of using a LiveCd before there are problems on your machine is
that you have more confidence in having a way of solving problems when they
occur in Windows. Also it checks that the hardware works easily by default
before getting stuck in the middle of an install.

Anyway, if you know about partitioning then it's a fairly safe bet that you know
what you are doing with it all.
Good luck and regards from
Tom :slight_smile:

From: Roxy Robinson <rocmar62@ranchwireless.com>
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Sun, 12 June, 2011 0:26:57
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Windows "Open with" - the answer - Call for a
cleaner

I will probably just wait until I get a chance to add a partition and go ahead
and install it. I have been fairly happy with Win7 64 so far. My boot time is
just under a minute - a few seconds better than my XP desktop, and WAY better
than my old Vista laptop.
Roxy

Hi :slight_smile:
You can reboot the machine with the Ubuntu Cd in and "Try it" instead of
installing. It's the slowest way to try Ubuntu but it's still often faster
that
way than Windows.

Actually the 10.04 and the 10.10 are a bit quirky so i tend to choose the
"Install it" option and then at the next page go "Back" and then try the "Try
it" option. [sigh] It takes maybe 10-15 mins to get to a working desktop
using
the Cd but Firefox is on the top taskbar and it's worth checking how fast

that

works at surfing a few sites.

Regards from
Tom :slight_smile:

> From: Roxy Robinson <rocmar62@ranchwireless.com>
> To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> Sent: Sat, 11 June, 2011 22:14:12
> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Windows "Open with" - the answer - Call for
a
>cleaner
>
> I have Ubuntu 10.10 desktop CD in my desk. One of these days I hope to get
to
>that, too.
> That's the terrible thing about mainstream, paid for, software. Why make

it

>perfect (or as perfect as a human can) when that would end your ongoing
sales??
> Roxy
>
>
> Hi :slight_smile:
> The equivalent in gnu&linux is/are excellent. Plus they also do the
"add"
>bit
> rather well by including search tools so that it's easy to find programs
that
> you might want to have even if you can't remember their exact names.
>
> There are sooo many things i don't miss about the Windows world. I feel
like
>i
> have broken out of stockholm syndrome or something. Colleagues at work
often
> hit walls in Windows and are unable to cope with trivial stuff. Makes me
>feel
> so smug. A few times i have even been able to fix things with a LiveUsb

:slight_smile:

> Regards from
> Tom :slight_smile:
>
>
>
>
> > From: Roxy Robinson <rocmar62@ranchwireless.com>
> > To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> > Sent: Sat, 11 June, 2011 19:09:00
> > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Windows "Open with" - the answer - Call
for
>a
> >cleaner
> >
> > Tom,
> > The Windows "add/remove" program is probably even worse than its
defragger.
> >Revo gets pretty deep into the registry - it may leave "main headings"

in

>the
> >registry sometimes, but it really does do a good job of cleaning when

it

> >uninstalls a program. There are many computer "gurus", writers, etc,

that

> >recommend it - it seems like anymore if you read an article, anywhere,
about
> >speeding up Windows, RevoUninstaller will be mentioned. I know that it
>comes
> >very close to removing everything of Norton AV, which is one of the

worst

> >programs there is to get off your computer. There are even special NAV
> >uninstallers out there to help with it.
> > Roxy
> >
> >
> > Hi :slight_smile:
> >
> > Thanks Roxy. Windows un-installers always tend to leave chaff behind.
>It's
> > practically impossible not to. Part of the problem is that MS 'have

to'

> stick
> > with legacy systems such as the registry in order to be backwards
>compatible.
> >
> >
> > Generally using Windows means committing to re-installing it every
couple
>of
> > years or just put-up-with the standard slow-downs from all the chaff
and
> >stuff.
> > I found off-line defrags with PerfectDisk helped a lot. Standard
defrags,
> > especially the default MS one can't defrag system-files which makes

them

> >almost
> > completely useless but Raxco's one can do Virtual Memory (=swap-file)
which
> > makes a huge difference.
> >
> >
> > This RevoUninstaller sounds like the other part of the equation.
> > Thanks and regards from
> > Tom :slight_smile:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > > From: Roxy Robinson <rocmar62@ranchwireless.com>
> > > To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> > > Sent: Sat, 11 June, 2011 16:10:21
> > > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Windows "Open with" - the answer -
Call
>for
> >a
> > >cleaner
> > >
> > > I would suggest using RevoUninstaller to do ANY program

uninstalling,

and
> >there
> > >is a free version. I have used it with great success for quite a few
>years.
> >If
> > >you use the 4th option from the uninstall dialog window, it will use
the
> > >programs normal uninstaller, first. Then it scans for all "leftovers"
that
> >has
> > >left. You will go through a couple of steps where the program will

show

>you
> >what
> > >it has found, including what is left in the registry. It lets you

pick

and
> > >choose what you want to delete, or you can choose "all" and delete.
Very
> >seldom
> > >have I ever had it leave any "crumbles" of a program I no longer
wanted
>on
> my
> > >machine.
> > > On the "open with" issue, always be sure, when you have picked a
program
> >to
> > >"open with" from the browse window, that the little box in the

bottom,

>left
> > >hand corner of that window is checked. It says something like

"always

>open
> >this
> > >type file with this program".
> > > Just a couple of suggestions that may help you out in the future.
> > > Roxy Robinson
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks for the start:
> > >
> > > I un-installed just OpenOffice and it made no difference - but I was
>on
> > > the move
> > >
> > > The finish went like this:-
> > > Un-install:- Open office, Lotus Symphony and Libra Office
> > >
> > > Then in Regedit (about 2 hours):- Delete any mention of the above 3
> > > programs
> > > and Delete:- all mentions of soffice.exe, swriter etc
> > >
> > > Delete the directories for the above in Application Data and the
> > > Program folders.
> > >
> > > Then re-install Libra office 3.4 - it works! - I can now use "open
>with"
> > >
> > > Then I re-installed Lotus Symphony 1 - that works with "open with"
> > >
> > > Then I re-installed Open office 3.3 - and now that does NOT work

with

> > > "open with".
> > >
> > > So its whoever is installed first!
> > >
> > > I am not too bothered this way around as OpenOffice does not cater
for
> > > Lotus Smart suite files whilst LibreOffice does >> all praise to
> > > LibreOffice.
> > >
> > > BUT, none of those 3 gets a star for cleanliness when de-installing.
> > >
> > > regards
> > >
> > > John B
> > >

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------

-
>-
> >-
> > >-
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hi :slight_smile:
> > > > Un-installing OpenOffice often cures weird and unlikely problems
> >especially
> > >in
> > > > Windows.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > There is still often a clash between OpenOffice and LibreOffice
when
> >both
> > >are
> > > > installed on a system. There are some clever ways to install both
but
>i
> > >don't
> > > > have a note of any of the various instructions and have not
compared
> >their
> > > > reliability or effectiveness.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Often the main problems occur when the Quick Launcher/Starter is
> enabled
> > >within
> > > > OpenOffice. Even without that they both use the same names on the
> > >command-line,
> > > > such as "soffice --writer" so the scope for errors and confusions
is
> >quite
> > > > high.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Usually just using the "Open with .." and then browsing to the
>relevant
> > >program
> > > > is enough to push that program to the short-list in the "Open

with

>.."
> > >option.
> > > >
> > > > Regards from
> > > > Tom :slight_smile:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ________________________________
> > > > From: John B<johnb@email2.me>
> > > > To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> > > > Sent: Fri, 10 June, 2011 14:46:28
> > > > Subject: [libreoffice-users] Windows "Open with"
> > > >
> > > > To open a selected Document with LibreOffice does anyone know how
to
> make
> > > > LibraOffice appear in the Windows "Open With" (and stay there).
> > > >
> > > > Even when I use the "browse" within the "open with" , then locate
> > >LibreOffice
> > > > manually, it still does not work, as when I click on LibreOffice
or
> >Writer
> > > > (applications), its ignored and the system jumps back to the
browsing
> >list.
> > > >
> > > > Also Libra Office does not appear in the recommended programs
list,
> >whilst
> > > > OpenOffice does and works fine.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Windows XP pro sp3
> > > > Libre Office 3.3& 3.4
> > > >
> > > > John B
> > > >
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#43

Hi :slight_smile:
Malware programs often pretend to be registry cleaners so please take care. The
registry is really vulnerable, fairly critical and not very well understood.
It's best to avoid messing around with it. Experts avoid touching it unless
they have to jic.
Regards from
Tom :slight_smile:

From: David B Teague sr <davidbteague@comporium.net>
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Sat, 11 June, 2011 23:17:13
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Windows "Open with" - the answer - Call for a
cleaner

> That is why there is a "special" uninstaller for Norton AV, that is, or
course, not produced by the Norton folks. It is a "freebie" out there
somewhere. I used it several years ago, but don't remember just exactly where I
got it.
> Roxy
>
This departs from the topic slightly, so please forgive.

When faced with recalcitrant application uninstallation, I have resorted to
removing the folder that contains the binary and running a registry cleaner.
(CCleaner seems to work and do no damage.)

There is no way to be certain every folder belonging to the recalcitrant
application has been removed.

This is off topic, so please use private communication in responding.

David Teague

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#44

Phil

I have the standard settings (unchanged) for Spelling and Grammar check.

When I am typing or do a document-wide spelling check - no words are
highlighted or found to be incorrect even if I purposely spell something
incorrectly as a test.

Do I need to download a dictionary to get this working?

Cheers

Phil Jackson

Which version and OS are you using?

You should check under TOOLS>>OPTIONS>>LANGUAGE SETTINGS>>WRITING AIDS
Make sure a dictionary is selected in the Available Language Modules
group
Then make sure the Check Spelling as You Type is selected in the Options
group.

#45

Tom Davies wrote:

It is smart to have an archive manager in the context/right-click menu for many
different purposes such as compressing a collection of files ready to email or
whatever.  WinZip is probably still the best archive manager in Windows.

Just to mention a few alternatives:
7-zip (LGPL licence)
PeaZip (GPS licence)
WinRAR (shareware licence)

There are usually quite a few sub-categories of any particular
format so changing, for example, "docX" to Writer using this method might not
cover ALL ".docX"s.

Under Windows, I believe the file-manager only looks at the extension
to decide which program to use. Unless I'm mistaken, it will use the
same program to open all *.docx files, regardless of which version the
file is or which program created it.

Is odt an Xml format?  I seem to remember hearing it is but i'm not sure.

The OpenDocument format (odt, ods, odp, odb, odg, etc.) is indeed "an
XML-based file format": http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odf

Also i don't know whether being non-Admin in Windows makes a difference to how
the "Open with ..." thing works in Windows.

I don't think you need to have Admin rights to affect the "Open
with..." options. Testing on the machine I'm currently using (without
Admin rights) the program does seem to get added to the "Open with..."
quick-list after the first time I've forced.

Regards
Stephan

#46

Hi :slight_smile:
Thanks :slight_smile: Good to see a few copy-left programs in your list of archive
managers. Some of those look familiar but i haven't tried them. :slight_smile:

If you open the file-browser and then click on something like
Tools - "Folder Options" - "File Types" (2nd or 3rd tab of 4?)
then you'll see that each file-ending/extension has several sub-categories. I
don't think those sub-categories are set by which program created the file =
that would be too easy.

It is true that if you take a file in Windows and rename it to make the
file-ending/extension some random 3 letters then suddenly Windows can't decide
what to open the file with. It can be a sneaky way of blocking access to anyone
that doesn't know how to use the "Open with .." functionality, ie most Windows
users.

Wow! I was able to open ods and odp with an archive manager to get at the
separate component parts of the files. I've never had much difficulty with Open
Document Formats so i hadn't tried before.
Thanks and regards from
Tom :slight_smile:

#47

planas wrote:

You should check under TOOLS>>OPTIONS>>LANGUAGE SETTINGS>>WRITING AIDS
Make sure a dictionary is selected in the Available Language Modules
group
Then make sure the Check Spelling as You Type is selected in the Options
group.

Also check that the AutoSpellCheck button is active. It should be in
the toolbar (it looks like an ABC with a red underlining) right next
to "Spelling and Grammer F7".

Regards
Stephan

#48

Thanks Stephan!

It's working now.

Cheers

Phil

#49

I see 3.4.0 for Windows is 188 MB now. Do you remember how much it was
in December .. 440 MB.
  Wow, great work from all the devs, full time (paid) and part time
volunteers, that helped with this!

Agree 1000% with that... and it is much less of an issue right now than
it was initially for this reason.

At this point, I'd actually be fine if we could just get the Program
Description in Add/Remove Programs to properly reflect/display the
*installed* language(s), as opposed to just blindly displaying *all*
*supported* languages.

But on the other hand, and I guess that's what the discussion started
with, having to do a separate download for the help, if you want it
local, is not so convenient.

Correct, that is a separate issue - I would still - especially now that
the installer is so much smaller - argue that it just doesn't make sense
to provide the help as a secondary installer, and that it should be
recombined into a single installer, but I understand the argument about
making the load easier on the mirrors too...

Maybe it could be scripted? Have a checkbox (I'd argue that it should be
checked by default) for including the local help, when the download is
selected, just have some kind of script 'concatenate' the two installers
into a single downloadable executable prior to downloading? Shouldn't be
too difficult for a competent programmer (I am not even an *incompetent*
programmer, but I know enough about programming to know generally what
would be hard and what would be easy)...

#50

Dear Tom & Roxy

/i remember this one getting to a slightly unsatisfactory but 'good enough'
result?/

Yes; Thanks to both of you ( and the others for their comments). I can see how easy it is to get off track.

I installed the free version of Revo-Uninstaller - brilliant

I then tried it out on my weakest link - OpenOffice

My non-scientific observation is that OO can uninstall about 50% of itself, whilst Revo uninstalled 99.9%.

There were a few OO crumbs left in the Registry (as opposed to the 50 -60 using windows uninstall).

This is a definite "must have" program from now on.

However, this does not resolve the windows issue that "Open With", as it defaults to the 1st one of the 2 installed.

For example now the reverse of my problem is true.

LO (good news for me) is now the default, I try to open any file using "openwith" and the browser button, I manually select OO click on it, but it immediately springs back to LO and opens with LO.

There is no way to force capture OO using this method. I have tried this now on a 2nd computer and the results were the same.

In all other ways its a reasonable result. Whilst they (OO & LO) are using identical file names and pathways, I suppose it will remain like this until one or the other changes the names - maybe soffice.exe will become Loffice.exe. What I do not understand is that Lotus Symphony also uses a soffice.exe and it works fine.

  so thanks and >> all hail to LibreOffice-users

John B

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-->John B,
BE SURE when you do the step below that you put a check (tick) by the box that says "Always use the selected program to open this kind of file." Easy to miss, especially if you're in a hurry, or irritated.
Roxy

I try to open any file using "openwith" and the browser button, I manually select OO[check the box], click on it,