HTML entities

users
#1

Hi,

I use LibreOffice Writer to convert word doc file to html. Is it normal
that libreoffice do not use html entities? (é instead of é)
I didn't have this problem with OOo

LibreOffice 3.3.2 - Linux debian 64

Example :
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
<HTML>
<HEAD>
         <META HTTP-EQUIV="CONTENT-TYPE" CONTENT="text/html; charset=utf-8">
         <TITLE></TITLE>
         <META NAME="GENERATOR" CONTENT="LibreOffice 3.3 (Unix)">
         <META NAME="CREATED" CONTENT="20110428;20121400">
         <META NAME="CHANGED" CONTENT="20110428;20130700">
         <STYLE TYPE="text/css">
         <!--
                 @page { margin: 2cm }
                 P { margin-bottom: 0.21cm }
         -->
         </STYLE>
</HEAD>
<BODY LANG="fr-FR" DIR="LTR">
<P STYLE="margin-bottom: 0cm">ééééééééééééééééééé</P>
</BODY>
</HTML>

Regards,
sms.

#2

Hi :slight_smile:
So the problem is that it shows é as a character? Is it just that you are using
a font/language that shows é easily? I guess that search&replace would convert
all the és to &eacute; but that wouldn't cover all the other characters. Could
you make a relevant font accessible to people that view the html?
Regards from
Tom :slight_smile:

#3

Hi Amicale,

Amicale Salmson schrieb:

Hi,

I use LibreOffice Writer to convert word doc file to html. Is it normal
that libreoffice do not use html entities? (&eacute; instead of é)
I didn't have this problem with OOo

It depends on your settings and on the way you convert it.

Using Export -> XHTML the exported document is encoded in UTF8, which is the default for XML. In UTF8 only the characters which are used for the markup (for example <>& ) need to be written as entities.

If you use SaveAs -> HTML Document, it depends on your setting in Tools -> Options -> Load/Save -> HTML compatibilitty -> character set. For example "Western Europe" needs entities for Greek characters, and "UTF8" does not. It is a great advantage, that this setting is respected. Older versions of OOo had always used entities. Can you imagine the trouble editing source of Greek text?

Kind regards
Regina

#4

Great! It works now.
Thank you very ùuch for the solution and the explanations.

Regards,
sms.

#5

Great! It works now.
Thank you very much for the solution and the explanations.

Regards,
sms.

#6

How do I unsubscribe from this list? I have tried everything with no
success. The note below:

Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+help@libreoffice.org

Makes no sense. What instructions??? E-mail WHAT to that address?
HELP

#7

Send an empty email to users+help@libreoffice.org and you will get an email back with examples of various commands. There are several relating to getting off the list, since there are several ways to get onto the list, depending on whether you opt to get copies of messages as they come or in a daily digest, etc.

It is likely that you made a simple subscription, so try sending an empty email from the same email address that you used to subscribe to users+unsubscribe@libreoffice.org.

//James

#8

Send an email to the address for unsubscribe instructions

#9

Hi :slight_smile:
Please send a blank email to the address

users+help@libreoffice.org

Note that the "users+" part at the beginning is important. It doesn't matter
what you put in the subject-line. You should get an email in response that
tells you how to unsubscribe.
Regards from
Tom :slight_smile:

#10

I had a hard time subscribing, and I see may people have problems using
the list commands.

It looks like my ISP's smtp didn't let me send emails to the
users+subscribe@libreoffice.org address. It silently disappeared (no
error email etc.). Eventually I managed to subscribe via their web-mail
thing. Same goes with the users+help@libreoffice.org email which I just
tested and has the same problem.

In my case it seems impossible to contact my ISP to ask about the issue
and they even closed tdown the user forums.

I wonder if the '+' in the addresses may be bothering some servers?

Lorenzo.

Tom Davies wrote:

#11

HTML entities

#12

Am 29.04.2011 12:03, schrieb Lorenzo Sutton:

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: List unsubscribe and commands [WAS]: Re: [libreoffice-users]
HTML entities
From: Lorenzo Sutton<lsutton@libero.it>
To: users@libreoffice.org
Date: 29/04/11 11:14

I had a hard time subscribing, and I see may people have problems using
the list commands.

It looks like my ISP's smtp didn't let me send emails to the
users+subscribe@libreoffice.org address. It silently disappeared (no
error email etc.). Eventually I managed to subscribe via their web-mail
thing. Same goes with the users+help@libreoffice.org email which I just
tested and has the same problem.

Actually further investigating this it seems it's not the smtp server or
ISP, as sending a mail to that address 'by hand' actually worked... So
maybe the problem is the ail client (in this case thunderbird)?

Mhh strange.
Lorenzo.

In my case it seems impossible to contact my ISP to ask about the issue
and they even closed tdown the user forums.

I wonder if the '+' in the addresses may be bothering some servers?

Lorenzo.

Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :slight_smile:
Please send a blank email to the address

users+help@libreoffice.org

Note that the "users+" part at the beginning is important. It doesn't matter
what you put in the subject-line. You should get an email in response that
tells you how to unsubscribe.
Regards from
Tom :slight_smile:

________________________________
From: planas<jslozier@gmail.com>
To: users@libreoffice.org
Sent: Fri, 29 April, 2011 5:34:13
Subject: RE: [libreoffice-users] HTML entities

Send an email to the address for unsubscribe instructions

On Thu, 2011-04-28 at 22:43 -0400, richard@hornick.us wrote:

How do I unsubscribe from this list? I have tried everything with no
success. The note below:

Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+help@libreoffice.org

Makes no sense. What instructions??? E-mail WHAT to that address?
HELP

--

-----Original Message-----
From: Amicale Salmson [mailto:amicale.salmson@free.fr]
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 2:33 PM
To: users@libreoffice.org
Subject: [libreoffice-users] HTML entities

Hi,

I use LibreOffice Writer to convert word doc file to html. Is it normal
that libreoffice do not use html entities? (&eacute; instead of é)
I didn't have this problem with OOo

LibreOffice 3.3.2 - Linux debian 64

Example :
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
<HTML>
<HEAD>
          <META HTTP-EQUIV="CONTENT-TYPE" CONTENT="text/html; charset=utf-8">
          <TITLE></TITLE>
          <META NAME="GENERATOR" CONTENT="LibreOffice 3.3 (Unix)">
          <META NAME="CREATED" CONTENT="20110428;20121400">
          <META NAME="CHANGED" CONTENT="20110428;20130700">
          <STYLE TYPE="text/css">
          <!--
                  @page { margin: 2cm }
                  P { margin-bottom: 0.21cm }
          -->
          </STYLE>
</HEAD>
<BODY LANG="fr-FR" DIR="LTR">
<P STYLE="margin-bottom: 0cm">ééééééééééééééééééé</P>
</BODY>
</HTML>

Regards, Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+help@libreoffice.org
sms.

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#13

Am 29.04.2011 12:28, schrieb Roland Schwille:

Am 29.04.2011 12:03, schrieb Lorenzo Sutton:

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: List unsubscribe and commands [WAS]: Re: [libreoffice-users]
HTML entities
From: Lorenzo Sutton<lsutton@libero.it>
To: users@libreoffice.org
Date: 29/04/11 11:14

I had a hard time subscribing, and I see may people have problems using
the list commands.

It looks like my ISP's smtp didn't let me send emails to the
users+subscribe@libreoffice.org address. It silently disappeared (no
error email etc.). Eventually I managed to subscribe via their web-mail
thing. Same goes with the users+help@libreoffice.org email which I just
tested and has the same problem.

Actually further investigating this it seems it's not the smtp server or
ISP, as sending a mail to that address 'by hand' actually worked... So
maybe the problem is the ail client (in this case thunderbird)?

Mhh strange.
Lorenzo.

In my case it seems impossible to contact my ISP to ask about the issue
and they even closed tdown the user forums.

I wonder if the '+' in the addresses may be bothering some servers?

Lorenzo.

Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :slight_smile:
Please send a blank email to the address

users+help@libreoffice.org

Note that the "users+" part at the beginning is important. It doesn't matter
what you put in the subject-line. You should get an email in response that
tells you how to unsubscribe.
Regards from
Tom :slight_smile:

________________________________
From: planas<jslozier@gmail.com>
To: users@libreoffice.org
Sent: Fri, 29 April, 2011 5:34:13
Subject: RE: [libreoffice-users] HTML entities

Send an email to the address for unsubscribe instructions

On Thu, 2011-04-28 at 22:43 -0400, richard@hornick.us wrote:

How do I unsubscribe from this list? I have tried everything with no
success. The note below:

Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+help@libreoffice.org

Makes no sense. What instructions??? E-mail WHAT to that address?
HELP

--

-----Original Message-----
From: Amicale Salmson [mailto:amicale.salmson@free.fr]
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 2:33 PM
To: users@libreoffice.org
Subject: [libreoffice-users] HTML entities

Hi,

I use LibreOffice Writer to convert word doc file to html. Is it normal
that libreoffice do not use html entities? (&eacute; instead of é)
I didn't have this problem with OOo

LibreOffice 3.3.2 - Linux debian 64

Example :
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
<HTML>
<HEAD>
<META HTTP-EQUIV="CONTENT-TYPE" CONTENT="text/html; charset=utf-8">
<TITLE></TITLE>
<META NAME="GENERATOR" CONTENT="LibreOffice 3.3 (Unix)">
<META NAME="CREATED" CONTENT="20110428;20121400">
<META NAME="CHANGED" CONTENT="20110428;20130700">
<STYLE TYPE="text/css">
<!--
                  @page { margin: 2cm }
                  P { margin-bottom: 0.21cm }
          -->
</STYLE>
</HEAD>
<BODY LANG="fr-FR" DIR="LTR">
<P STYLE="margin-bottom: 0cm">ééééééééééééééééééé</P>
</BODY>
</HTML>

Regards, Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+help@libreoffice.org
sms.

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#14

Am 29.04.2011 12:41, schrieb Roland Schwille:

Am 29.04.2011 12:28, schrieb Roland Schwille:

Am 29.04.2011 12:03, schrieb Lorenzo Sutton:

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: List unsubscribe and commands [WAS]: Re: [libreoffice-users]
HTML entities
From: Lorenzo Sutton<lsutton@libero.it>
To: users@libreoffice.org
Date: 29/04/11 11:14

I had a hard time subscribing, and I see may people have problems using
the list commands.

It looks like my ISP's smtp didn't let me send emails to the
users+subscribe@libreoffice.org address. It silently disappeared (no
error email etc.). Eventually I managed to subscribe via their web-mail
thing. Same goes with the users+help@libreoffice.org email which I just
tested and has the same problem.

Actually further investigating this it seems it's not the smtp server or
ISP, as sending a mail to that address 'by hand' actually worked... So
maybe the problem is the ail client (in this case thunderbird)?

Mhh strange.
Lorenzo.

In my case it seems impossible to contact my ISP to ask about the issue
and they even closed tdown the user forums.

I wonder if the '+' in the addresses may be bothering some servers?

Lorenzo.

Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :slight_smile:
Please send a blank email to the address

users+help@libreoffice.org

Note that the "users+" part at the beginning is important. It doesn't matter
what you put in the subject-line. You should get an email in response that
tells you how to unsubscribe.
Regards from
Tom :slight_smile:

________________________________
From: planas<jslozier@gmail.com>
To: users@libreoffice.org
Sent: Fri, 29 April, 2011 5:34:13
Subject: RE: [libreoffice-users] HTML entities

Send an email to the address for unsubscribe instructions

On Thu, 2011-04-28 at 22:43 -0400, richard@hornick.us wrote:

How do I unsubscribe from this list? I have tried everything with no
success. The note below:

Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+help@libreoffice.org

Makes no sense. What instructions??? E-mail WHAT to that address?
HELP

--

-----Original Message-----
From: Amicale Salmson [mailto:amicale.salmson@free.fr]
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 2:33 PM
To: users@libreoffice.org
Subject: [libreoffice-users] HTML entities

Hi,

I use LibreOffice Writer to convert word doc file to html. Is it normal
that libreoffice do not use html entities? (&eacute; instead of é)
I didn't have this problem with OOo

LibreOffice 3.3.2 - Linux debian 64

Example :
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
<HTML>
<HEAD>
<META HTTP-EQUIV="CONTENT-TYPE" CONTENT="text/html; charset=utf-8">
<TITLE></TITLE>
<META NAME="GENERATOR" CONTENT="LibreOffice 3.3 (Unix)">
<META NAME="CREATED" CONTENT="20110428;20121400">
<META NAME="CHANGED" CONTENT="20110428;20130700">
<STYLE TYPE="text/css">
<!--
                  @page { margin: 2cm }
                  P { margin-bottom: 0.21cm }
          -->
</STYLE>
</HEAD>
<BODY LANG="fr-FR" DIR="LTR">
<P STYLE="margin-bottom: 0cm">ééééééééééééééééééé</P>
</BODY>
</HTML>

Regards, Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+help@libreoffice.org
sms.

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#15

This forum is pathetic.

15% of emails are related to "un-subscribe" issues. I do not need my mail box clogged up
with such kuk.

If un-subscribe doesn't work then what chance is there that bugs in Impress will ever get
sorted.

Powerpoint 2003 all is forgiven. I only have to convert MP3 back to wav...

Thanks to email filtering 95% of all forum panty wetting goes into the trash bin.

The remaining 5% is sometimes interesting (thanks Tom).

Journos should be banned or shut up.

An MS licence payer

#16

This forum is pathetic.

Actually, it is a mailing list. And sadly, it is not the list that is
pathetic. It is the fact that some people have difficulty following simple
instructions.

15% of emails are related to "un-subscribe" issues. I do not need my mail

box clogged up with such kuk.

It is not only your email that is cluttered with this "kuk"(?). And it is
not just this list that suffers from this problem. It would be a bit much to
expect that someone who cannot read the simple instructions for
un-subscription from the list that is at the bottom of each and every
message posted to the list to NOT hi-jack the thread to vent their
frustration at their own inability to read what is in front of them and
follow simple instructions.

If un-subscribe doesn't work then what chance is there that bugs in Impress

will ever get sorted

Un-subscribe works. "Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to
users+help@libreoffice.org". What doesn't seem to work is the comprehension
level of common people.

Powerpoint 2003 all is forgiven. I only have to convert MP3 back to wav...

OK. Whatever THAT has to do with anything.

Thanks to email filtering 95% of all forum panty wetting goes into the trash

bin.

Setting up a filter takes a few more steps than sending a blank email to
users+help@libreoffice.org. But if it works for you I'm sure it works for
the rest of us.

The remaining 5% is sometimes interesting (thanks Tom).

The list is here for those who need help and for those who get satisfaction
from helping others. This triviality is no more annoying to you than it is
to the rest. But some have accepted the fact that some folks simply can't
follow simple instructions. And, to me, aside from the hoards who can't
unsubscribe themselves without making a fuss about it, this list is 100%
interesting.

Journos should be banned or shut up.

Pot calls kettle black.

An MS licence payer

And a proud member of the unthinking slaves to capitalism.

I apologize to the list if I seem frustrated by this. I usually just ignore
these messages. But folks who insult the FOSS community get under my skin...
as if paying money actually gets a product without problems. And I have
tried to get help in the past from companies who sell licenses, like the
Mega$oft group. They don't hold a candle to the speed and quality of the
assistance offered by lists such as this one. But there will always be poor
deluded slaves who think otherwise.

Now, I have wasted your time with this tirade just as those who can't
understand simple processes have, and for this I also apologize. But I am
now done. Thank you.

#17

Don't apologize Bruce.

This list is made of people who understands the meaning of cooperation..
Some of us are here to teach, others to learn, and others like me to do both
things. But what it really worths is the wish to help eachother.
I'm a brazilian member of the list. We have our own brazilian lists and we
face the same problems here.
My English is terrible, but I don´t refuse in helping people if I can.

Timi, I'm really sorry if you´re disappointed about the list but the
instructions are clear. You could be one to help the people who has some
difficulty in getting unsubscribed.

My two cents.
We could have a direct instruction for those who wants to unsubscribe like.

"*To remove your subscription just send a blank email to
users+unsubscribe@libreoffice.org"*

Rgds

Helmar Fernandes

#18

Bruce (Summit)

Maybe you could come out of the woodwork one last time and attack my specific Impress
problem...

(a) It loses links between "interaction -play sound" and the MP 3 file.... annoying if you hv
over 400 files linked and they all vanish without warning. No skin off your nose but a *****
waste of my time.

(b) Impress can't convert to .xls without all icon to sound file links being removed/destroyed.
Hopeless as a business tool (at least under XP system). May shock you but many people
world wide use MS powerpoint and some of us have to communicate.

With all your apparent background surely you could encourage someone to stick a filter into
the forum that diverts un-subscribe to somewhere else...

Service delivery is why people get attracted to products...... or is that simply old fashioned?

If I understand you, you are basically saying that if something is "freeware" such as LibO then
don't bitch if it screws up.......... fine if it were a file converter or something but when you enter
the commerical world (office products) then be prepared for "trades description" issues..

There are many websites promoting Impress as an alternative to powerpoint.... if so then
ensure that statement is correct and that Impress can give powerpoint a good hiding which I
for one would support and even pay for if it was better.... I said if!

I am at risk of abusing this forum as this type of discussion should be somewhere else.....
maybe re-direct and we can get to the bottom of this... unless you've gone back into the
woodwork...

BTW I do pay MS their licence fee's... I'd also pay for Impress if it were capable of giving me
a GUI free presenter and didn't lose interactive links.

To add to your misery I am an XP user as I find Win7 GUI completely anal.

sincerely

timi

#19

Helmar,

I have no idea how to un-subscribe (other than I kept a copy of a very informative email I saw
a few days ago).... it's an issue I may have to deal with in the near future.

In the meantime IF so many people have a problem regardless of why.... then surely ALL un-
subscribe queries could be redirected somewhere else? OR maybe someone could check
the un-subscribe system and make it simple.... why should it be difficult? simple email your
addy to this address and you will be un-subscribed....

I do not want 20+ moans a day landing in my mailbox..... am I being unreasonable. I'm not
LibO admin..... just a user trying to use it!

Kind regards

timi

#20

Hi all,

To unsubscribe you may send a blank message to:

users+unsubscribe@libreoffice.org

After that, answer the email sent you..and enjoy...or not!! :smiley:

When you send email to user+help@libreoffice.org instructions are send
to your email.

Helmar: Your english is beautifull!!! hehehhe

Luiz Oliveira