Sun Weblog Publisher broken

This plugin was one of the few reasons I bothered with OpenOffice.
Being able to write blog entries off-line using fonts and specific
layouts was awesome. It appears absolutely nothing has been done on
this since 2009. Is anybody going to pick up the ball???

Hi Roland,

This plugin was one of the few reasons I bothered with OpenOffice.
Being able to write blog entries off-line using fonts and specific
layouts was awesome. It appears absolutely nothing has been done on
this since 2009. Is anybody going to pick up the ball???

I suggest you file a bug report or a feature enhancement request on
freedesktop bugzilla - the user list is not where your question will be
answered in all likelihood.

Alex

There is not a single ^TY)*(&)(*&)(ing link on the LibreOffice site to
file a bug report!!!!!!!!!!1

Hi,

There is not a single ^TY)*(&)(*&)(ing link on the LibreOffice site to
file a bug report!!!!!!!!!!1

sorry, but you are wrong!
There is.

If you don't believe me, see for yourself:
Go to libreoffice.org/get involved/Developers/File Bugs

There is a link to bugzilla.

Sigrid

And just how many users are going to dig that deep to find out how to
file a bug report?

___Most___ sites, including the original OpenOffice site, put "file bug
report" links either on the first page OR under the Support heading.
You didn't even have the decency to put it under "Get Help". As a
general rule, when the bug report page is under the Developer tree, it
tends to be "expert friendly" requiring reports filed only by people
working directly with the code and uploading patches for the bugs they
find...not end users who find vicious bugs.

Hi :slight_smile:
Things are not perfect yet. We do need people to point out faults so that we
can fix them. Of course we are going to be slightly over-sensitive to criticism
when we care so much about the project but we need to get beyond that and just
improve things. What has been done so far is amazing.

I think this question really needs to go to the website team's mailing list but
i am not on it. Could someone else, perhaps Roland, talk to them about this?
Regards from
Tom :slight_smile:

Hi again
Sorry i should have mentioned this page for advice about posting bug-reports
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugReport
and it includes this link straight to the BugZilla website
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/
Good luck and regards from
Tom :slight_smile:

Despite being longtime user of OOo and Libo, I never report any bugs. I
think even very complicated. I think we could get something more simple
that would work from within LibreOffice.

Here in Brazil we have an example with CoGrOO Community. CoGrOO is a
grammar checker developed by students at USP (Universidade de São
Paulo). With "Cogroo Comunidade" it's possible to contribute to the
development of the extension directly from LibreOffice. Just an idea
that occurred to me now.

Regards,

Luiz Oliveira

Hi :slight_smile:
That would be great. Then other packages that also use CoGrOO couild also post
bug-reports directly to the CoGrOO part of BugZilla. I have a feeling that it
already works very much like that.

I think triagers in BugZilla can move threads from one project to another within
BugZilla. Ubuntu and other projects often tend to have a down-stream
bugs/wish-list/questions place and only bump things up to BugZilla when needed.

I'm not sure about any of this so it would be interesting to know if you're idea
is already the way things are meant to work.
Regards from
Tom :slight_smile:

Q. What is this 'we' you speak of? Do you have a mouse in your pocket?
For some reason I fail to find you on:
http://www.documentfoundation.org/foundation/
http://www.documentfoundation.org/foundation/members/
and I don't think that I've see you post code on the developers list.

Your posts containing " We do need people to point out faults", "Of
course we are going to be", "when we care so much about the project",
and but we need to get beyond that" imply that you are speaking for LO,
or the LO community at large.

If you think you speak for the LO c(C)omunity at large; you certainly do
not speak for me (no I'm not a 'member/founder/dev' & I doubt that you
speak for others on this list.

Wow!

Someone definitely peed in your cornflakes this morning!

Wow!

Someone definitely peed in your cornflakes this morning!

Try bottom or interleaved posting some time.

"peed in your cornflakes"?

My *point* is that Tom Davies is replying to users on this list as if he
represents LO. New users to this list may be inclined to think that the
"we" in his posts are coming from some 'official' LO source.

If that is not obvious to you, then I suggest that you actually may have
actually eaten the "peed" in cornflakes & I'm happy to take this off
list to discuss further so that we don't bore the list otherwise.

...

Then again... I suppose we could all ask 'Shane' to be the LO
spokesperson given his recent post on the LO dev list:
<http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.documentfoundation.libreoffice.devel/11685>

NoOp wrote (30-05-11 05:25)

My *point* is that Tom Davies is replying to users on this list as if he
represents LO. New users to this list may be inclined to think that the
"we" in his posts are coming from some 'official' LO source.

Tom not only brings in confusion about who he represents, also his typical contribution to the list is, however friendly it looks ( :slight_smile: ... :-\ ) adding confusion more than a to the point reply.
And of course he still does not master his mail client.

Cor

Neither bottom nor interleaved posting methods are used by professional
IT workers. Microsoft developers yes, but not professionals.

Whether he does or doesn't represent LO in any official capacity really
doesn't matter to me. "Official" presence seems to be non-existent at
best on this list and believe it or not, Tom is where I got my answer.
Had the LO Web site been designed even remotely correct for a commercial
or widely used product, the bug reporting link would have been under
Support or on the main page, not hidden at the end of a developer page,
where most users won't go...great for developers who only want to see
bugs that come with patches already hacked, not great for people that
want to post bugs.

I have to disagree both with you Cor and with NoOp.

Tom is answering as a member of the community. Here is a quote from the
LibreOffice homepage "Support and documentation is free from our large,
dedicated community of users, contributors and developers."

So you see, miserable lowly human beings like Tom and myself are part of
this community when we donate part of our time and experience. And surprise,
so are the USERS :slight_smile:

Unless you are saying that the SC, the members and the developers which in
your logic are the only ones that represent the community, want to have the
exclusive of answering all the questions (or to ignore them).

I think that having a sense of community is a positive thing.

Please don't antagonize people who are helping. Peace!

Sigh! Roland your remark is utter nonsens. Many lists courteously request to bottom post but also request clipping. Professional IT workers remove unnecessary wording from replies and adhere to courteously requested rules.
Joep

Joep,

Professional IT workers never remove any portion of the post because
when you go through a SOX audit, and then through court, you get in a
whole lot of trouble for doing it.

Now, people who once got paid for writing a program or use Microsoft
products may well have different opinions since their not the ones
working on multi-million dollar projects for Fortunate 500 companies.

There is a long drawn out history of people deleting what they didn't
read then denying things were said.

Bottom posting wastes vast quantities of developers time scrolling to
the end. Full quoting is a policy mandated by most major corporations
and IT organizations because it allows management (and the legal team)
to jump into the conversation at any point.

I wouldn't even be on this list had the Web site been designed by
software professionals instead of whoever was used.

Roland,
Permit me to disagree. If you need E-mails for court representation it is best to furnish the original E-mails not the parts of text in answers to E-mails. You answer the relevant portions of an E-mail as the originator has the original text. I don't think a court will accept the umptieth repeat of an original E-mail. But I live in the Netherlands and I have no idea how convoluted American lawyers and justices actually reason. Well, that goes for Dutch members of that kind also. It is a breed that I, as a simple scientist, not understand so therefore your reasoning might be right.
Joep